Possible upcoming skirmish (or worse) in or around Korean Peninsula?

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Agreed, must be getting old when I believe I see history repeating itself so frequently

large numbers of disagreeing voices didn't stop tony last time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2765041.stm

Provided no nation is targeted, the lack of a prize (of any size) will hopefully prevent any foolishness this time
 
JFC Fuller said:
Mat Parry said:
Take it with a grain of salt, it is full of caveats, has yet to be approved and the South Korean's disagree.
I would disagree as well. Building a nuclear capable missile involves a lot more than simply having some rockets and nukes; and they haven't done nearly enough testing to convince me that they've mastered the reentry/guidance technology necessary to actually deliver such a weapon at medium, intermediate, or intercontinental ranges. That still leaves the slight possibility of nuclear Scud-type missiles, but I suspect that aircraft are their only reliable means of delivery (assuming they have a deliverable weapon at all).
 
One month since the start of this thread. No skirmish, no nothing worse. Not even a single bullet was fired from north to south.
 
Not to sound all war-monger like but this episode is starting to bore me.
 
Good quote on TV news a few nights ago, from a retired General who was asked if we should take the current NK threats seriously:

"We need to take this seriously. Just like we did with their last 493 threats."
 
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Abraham Gubler said:
One month since the start of this thread. No skirmish, no nothing worse. Not even a single bullet was fired from north to south.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQnaRtNMGMI

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But it seems as if the mood is changing in the US a bit ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/13/opinion/bomb-north-korea-before-its-too-late.html?hp&_r=1&
 
"McCain: Kim Jong Un is 'a clown'"
By Justin Sink - 04/12/13 11:34 AM ET

Source:
http://thehill.com/video/senate/293587-mccain-kim-jung-un-is-a-clown

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) dismissed North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as a "clown" and a "fool" as tensions on the Korean peninsula continue to rise ahead of an expected missile test.

"This guy is a clown. He’s a fool, so was his father and so was his grandfather," McCain told Fox News on Thursday.

The Arizona lawmaker said the North Korean military is equipped with nuclear weapons and shielded missile sites that pose a danger to the United States.

“There’s a city of Seoul with millions of people," McCain said. "This is very dangerous business. Now logically, would he ever contemplate such a thing? I think it’s pretty clear this guy and his father and grandfather didn’t think like us.”

McCain said that he believed the Pentagon should attempt to shoot down any test missile fired by Pyongyang as a show of American military strength.

“I would take it out,” McCain said. “We show young Kim Jong Un that we can take out his capabilities. We can show that to him.”

On Friday, Secretary of State John Kerry blasted North Korean posturing as "simply unacceptable" during a press conference in Seoul.

"I am here to make it clear today on behalf of President Obama and the citizens of the United States and our bilateral security agreement, that the United States will defend its allies and itself," he said.
 
It's interesting how a bit of empty, aggressive rhetoric can get some people alarmed. There are no reports of DPRK units massing north of the DMZ, ready for an attack. Yet everybody runs around like the sky is falling...
 
Bad North Korea want $$, rice, and plum sauce for free. When North Korea get what it want then you see Good North Korea again. Until then we have big nuke for scare USA with.
 
Much like a 3 year old getting into trouble I will worry when North Korea is actually quiet ;D
 
TaiidanTomcat said:
Much like a 3 year old getting into trouble I will worry when North Korea is actually quiet ;D

You mean quite as quite during the last 2-3 days ! To admit that fears me more since this weekend esp. in mind of big grand.pa's birthday on 15. April than all that hysteria coming from NK during all the weeks before .... :-\

Deino
 
"North Korea Demands Apologies in Its ‘Ultimatum’ to South"

Source:
http://en.ria.ru/world/20130416/180656941/North-Korea-Demands-Apologies-in-Its-Ultimatum-to-South.html

TOKYO, April 16 (RIA Novosti) - The North Korean military supreme command has issued an ultimatum to South Korea, demanding an immediate apology for “all the major and minor hostile actions,” the state news agency KCNA said on Tuesday.

“The supreme command of the Korean People's Army Tuesday issued an ultimatum to the South Korean puppet group," the statement reads.

The ultimatum, which coincides with the "Day of the Sun" marking the birthday of the North's founder Kim Il-Sung, says that Pyongyang would retaliate without warning if the South goes ahead with its "anti-North Korean" activities.

"Our retaliatory action will start without any notice from now," it reads.

Tensions rose sharply on the Korean Peninsula in December after North Korea tested a long-range Taepodong 2 missile, and again in February when it carried out its third nuclear test. The UN responded with sanctions. The start of joint military exercises between South Korea and the United States last month further irritated the North, which threatened to carry out a nuclear attack on the US mainland, as well as on US forces in the region.
 
Good news! After talking about military actions and even nuclear strikes, they are just talking about
"apologies", which means words. So it's much easier for NK to tell their people, that the got, what they
wanted. The rest is blah blah blah.

About Ritalin, maybe the cartoon contains a bit of truth and we just saw the results of an overdose ?
The next time the B-2s should better disperse sleeping pills ! ;)
 
I suspect something was supposed to happen between the 11th and the 15th and it didn't, if you see what I mean.
 
Gridlock said:
I suspect something was supposed to happen between the 11th and the 15th and it didn't, if you see what I mean.

They probably did not have the calories to do whatever it was they were going to do.
 
To match North korean ante, The US and South Korea should publically announce the date of the next scheduled joint military exercise involving b-1 and b-52 now, and announce these exercises will happen every year forever.

The US should publically invite china to jointly pledge with the US to never invade North Korea so long as North Korea dismantal it's nuclear programs, never attack the south, and immediately submit to joint on demand inspections. The pledge will be jointly withdrawn if inspection demand is at any time refused for any reason.

The US should incentivize china to privately pledge to provide Kim family safe heaven if for any reason they might feel safer to leave North Korea. In return, US should pledge to china that North Korea will become administratively part of south korea but will become a demilitarized zone for 50 years, subject to chinese inspection, if Kim leaves.
 
Sometimes I wonder if the only thing Nth Korea will understand is their own medicine back: i.e. the west tells them to shut up and stop threatening us or else we will come up their and publicly 'spank them'.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22348488
 
A differing view? http://www.news.com.au/world-news/what-if-were-wrong-about-north-korea/story-fndir2ev-1226631780873
 
GTX said:
A differing view? http://www.news.com.au/world-news/what-if-were-wrong-about-north-korea/story-fndir2ev-1226631780873

Beckham cologne, a true yard stick of civility and progress ;D

Here I thought North Korea was a rigid police state complete with gulags and a military all out of proportion to societal needs, but now that I learn they like soccer and have cologne everything has changed now ;) I wish South Korea could be more like North Korea.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22396484
 
I hadn't seen anything posted recently about the latest "North Korea" situation. Prompted me to run a search. This seemed like the most appropriate thread to continue.

Lot's of news about the Carl Vinson being directed toward Korea. I can't believe anything is likely with the Reagan tied up in Yokosuka. It is interesting that the Nimitz hasn't been heard from in the last week or so. Also, the USS Theodore Roosevelt sailed yesterday.
 
"Japanese Warships to Join US Carrier Strike Group Off Korean Peninsula"
By Franz-Stefan Gady
April 13, 2017

Source:
http://thediplomat.com/2017/04/japanese-warships-to-join-us-carrier-strike-group-off-korean-peninsula/

The Japan Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) will purportedly dispatch an unknown number of destroyers to the East China Sea to conduct joint naval drills with the U.S. Navy’s nuclear-powered Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson and its battlegroup, unnamed sources told Reuters on April 11.

“The Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force (MSDF) may conduct helicopter landings on each other’s ships, as well as communication drills, as the USS Carl Vinson and its escort ships pass through waters close to Japanese territory,” Reuters reports citing two well-placed sources.

“Japan wants to dispatch several destroyers as the Carl Vinson enters the East China Sea,” said one of the sources. A number of JMSDF destroyers are equipped with the so-called Aegis Combat System Baseline 9, specifically designed for ballistic missile defense.

The USS Carl Vinson along with two Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers and one Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser is currently steaming towards the Korean Peninsula amid rising tensions with North Korea following the communist regime’s latest medium-range ballistic missile test.

The USS Carl Vinson only recently departed South Korean waters.

“Last month, the carrier strike group participated in the Republic of Korea-United States Combined Forces Command eight week-long Foal Eagle exercise, a series of military drills conducted by U.S. and South Korean air, ground, naval, and special operations forces,” I reported on Monday. “Together with the Key Resolve computer-simulated command post exercise, Foal Eagle is the largest annually-held joint U.S.-South Korean military drill.”

In response to Pyongyang’s recent actions, Seoul successfully test fired a new ballistic missile with an estimated range of 800 kilometers in early April. The missile likely was an improved variant of the Hyunmoo (현무, which literally means “Guardian of the Northern Sky”) ballistic missile. It is scheduled to become operational by the end of 2017.

The U.S. government has openly been considering preemptive strikes against the North Korean regime. “North Korea is looking for trouble,” U.S. President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter on April 11, adding that if “China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them!” The Trump administration, however, vowed to only commence military actions following close consultations with its regional allies.

Pyongyang in turn threatened with nuclear retaliation, according to Reuters quoting North Korean media. “Our revolutionary strong army is keenly watching every move by enemy elements,” an article in the state-owned Rodong Sinmun newspaper said. “With our nuclear sight focused on the U.S. invasionary bases, not only in South Korea and the Pacific operation theatre but also in the U.S. mainland.”

China, meanwhile, has threatened to impose an oil embargo on North Korea should it continue to defy UN Security Council (UNSC) resolutions. “More and more Chinese support the view that the government should enhance sanctions over Pyongyang’s nuclear activities,” an editorial in the state-owned Global Times stated on April 12. “If the North makes another provocative move this month, the Chinese society will be willing to see the UNSC adopt severe restrictive measures that have never been seen before, such as restricting oil imports to the North.”
 
Personally I wonder if Trump is just pissed off that Kim Jong-un is a stronger contender for the "world's biggest whack job with a bad hair cut" award! ;)

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I would be impressed if you posted this in North Korea.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4414232/US-Air-Force-Army-troops-conduct-drills-South-Korea.html

Still no news about the Nimitz whereabouts. One could expect SSGN's as well.

Interesting pictures out of Kadena.
 
It may be a good sign that NK's national holiday appears to have passed without the feared nuclear test. Perhaps an opportunity for everybody to stand down and defuse the situation?
 
fredymac said:
I would be impressed if you posted this in North Korea.
It's like the old joke about The American Secretary of State talking to the Russian Foreign Minister about each countries differences;

SecState - You see Mr. Foreign Minister in my country I can stand at the gates of the White House and shout how terrible the President is.......

Foreign Minister - No different in my country I can stand at the gates of Red Square and shout how bad the US President is..........
 
bobbymike said:
old joke about The American Secretary of State talking to the Russian Foreign Minister about each countries differences;

SecState - You see Mr. Foreign Minister in my country I can stand at the gates of the White House and shout how terrible the President is.......

Foreign Minister - No different in my country I can stand at the gates of Red Square and shout how bad the US President is..........

;D
 
This looks like it might be "fake" sputnik news. Can't find any collaboration in Yonhap News Agency (largest S. Korean news) from where it's attributed.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201704171052700019-three-us-aircraft-carriers-korean-peninsula/
 
NeilChapman said:
This looks like it might be "fake" sputnik news. Can't find any collaboration in Yonhap News Agency (largest S. Korean news) from where it's attributed.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201704171052700019-three-us-aircraft-carriers-korean-peninsula/


Yep

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-carrier-still-thousands-of-miles-from-korea
 
From the "horses mouth"...

https://www.facebook.com/cvn68/posts/10155012814542481
 
https://www.defensetech.org/2017/05/09/north-korea-rattled-commando-carrying-ballistic-missile-sub/?ESRC=dod-bz.nl
 
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/05/16/uss-ronald-reagan-underway-patrol-amid-uncertainty-asia.html
 
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