PA NG - next gen French Aircraft carrier program

[kqcke for you]

Hardly if you haven't any stealth component among your fighters.

But for that the Neuron based drone is in development...

Regarding the extra length catapult, I wonder if that doesn't result from a trade study regarding a/c maintenance and service life. Longer means a slower acceleration and less strain on the airframe.

Lots of reasons for an increased EMALS. Maybe they just need a higher launch speed at a given weight.

 

[Scott Kenny]

Ah thanks. It kind of makes it look like a big yacht haha
Any idea as to why other carriers aren't using the same trick? Could that indicate that the K22 reactors are somehow a bit underpowered?
It would be a shame if they didn't learn any lessons from the K15.

I'm guessing that the reactors are underpowered a bit.

The USN can design whatever monster reactors they want for a 330-350m carrier.

Yeah the Ford and Fujian do have a notch but it seemed less dramatic than the PANG one.
The Queen Elizabeth has a square-ish deck with no notch though. Is that beacause the flight deck isn't angled and so it is less bothersome for the landing planes if you park planes there?

Yes, it's because the QE flight deck isn't angled.

Besides that, I often found SCAF to be severely overweight for any carrier - until I just realized EMALS could handle the weight much better than plain old steam catapults. 35 mt instead of a Rafale-M 25 mt ?

Yes, EMALS is a beast of a catapult. especially if you can get two the same length as the Ford-class.

Edit: that means we may see FCAS with an MTOW twice of that from rafale with around 50.000kg

You could, but I strongly doubt it.

I wouldn't expect any carrier aircraft to exceed 40 tonnes MTOW and ~25 tonnes landing weight. Both weights limited by the carrier equipment (MTOW limited by catapults, landing weight limited by arresting gear).

So FCAS would be about the same size as the USN FA-XX.

 

[H_K]

Lots of reasons for an increased EMALS. Maybe they just need a higher launch speed at a given weight

Please let’s stop jumping to conclusions. There is no evidence that EMALS’ length is being changed and in fact it is most unlikely.

Everyone quotes 90m (300ft) length but that is just a nice round number that isn’t accurate. EMALS is actually composed of 29x 12ft segments (according to congressional testimony in 2009), ie. 348ft or 106m long. That doesn’t include the braking length, just the power stroke (acceleration length).

So when journalists quote 90m or 100 m or 105m they are all talking approximate numbers, not actual lengths on an engineering drawing.

 

[Kurapika444]

Please let’s stop jumping to conclusions. There is no evidence that EMALS’ length is being changed and in fact it is most unlikely.

Everyone quotes 90m (300ft) length but that is just a nice round number that isn’t accurate. EMALS is actually composed of 29x 12ft segments (according to congressional testimony in 2009), ie. 348ft or 106m long. That doesn’t include the braking length, just the power stroke (acceleration length).

So when journalists quote 90m or 100 m or 105m they are all talking approximate numbers, not actual lengths on an engineering drawing.

Yep it's all approximate so far and we won't know for sure until next year it seems.
Wouldn't it be more expensive if France ordered custom EMALS instead of using the same Gerald Ford ones? Unless they can't be exactly the same for obscure reasons? (aircraft needs, deck dimensions, power system idk...)

 

[kqcke for you]

Within the next days we should see something from naval news

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854275248721391903

View: https://x.com/xaviervav/status/1854275248721391903



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