Morane Saulnier designations

And here is a drawing of MS-800 in its single-engine (Atar) variant. There was also a two-engine variant with Snecma R-105s.
Piotr

And here is some info on the MS-800 from the document 'de_ms_a_socata.pdf', which unfortunately has disappeared from http://hydroretro.net/ :

Le projet Morane-Saulnier MS-800
En 1950, l’état-major de l’Armée de l’Air envisage de doter les forces de l’air françaises d’un avion tactique léger d’attaque au sol. Un marché est émis en juin 1951 auxquels plusieurs constructeurs français répondent, puis les spécifications sont revues et figées définitivement en décembre 1953.

Y répondent Breguet, avec son Breguet 1000, Dassault avec ses Etendard II et IV, Nord-Aviation avec ses deux projets Nord-1540 et Nord-5010 « Harpon », Sud-Est (SNCASE) avec le SE-218 et 5020 dérivé du « Baroudeur », Sud-Ouest (SNCASO) avec son SO-6100 « Requin » et Morane-Saulnier avec le MS-800.

Dessiné à Tarbes par l’ingénieur Caillette, Le MS-800, est un monoplace biréacteur à aile médiane en flèche capable de voler à mach 0,9. Une variante mono réacteur à moteur SNECMA Atar 101 est envisagée en 1954. Le fuselage, constitué de deux coquilles métalliques, est blindé par des plaques de titane au niveau du cockpit. Le projet de Morane-Saulnier n’est pas accepté par les services officiels qui retiennent les projets de Breguet et Dassault. Le premier donnera naissance au Breguet TAON et le second à l’ « Etendard » IV de la Marine nationale.

Piotr
 
From Morane-Saulnier book,

there was also MS-800-2,MS-800-3,MS-801 & MS-802.
 

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From Morane-Saulnier book,

there was also MS-800-2,MS-800-3,MS-801 & MS-802.
My dear Hesham, now please post here the data for the MS-800 from "Les Avions Combat Francaise 1944-1960".
Thank you in advance
Piotr
 
My dear Hesham, now please post here the data for the MS-800 from "Les Avions Combat Francaise 1944-1960".
Thank you in advance
Piotr

OK my dear Petrus.
 

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Hello. Could somebody post technical information about the Morane-Saulnier Ms.710 and Ms.710, please?
Specially length, height and armament.
Thank you!
 
Hello. Could somebody post technical information about the Morane-Saulnier Ms.710 and Ms.710, please?
Specially length, height and armament.
Thank you!

Welcome aboard.
 

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Few other MS.710 and 711 drawings.
 

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I have found what appears to be an original drawing of the Morane-Saulnier 370 (see designation in the upper left corner) which is obviously a single-seat/single-strut parasol with an inline engine.
According to the lists here the MS.370 project was something completely different, and also it seems that the drawing doesn‘t fit to any other plane from Morane-Saulnier.

From the appearance of this aircraft it looks as this might be a parasol-version of the Morane-Saulnier MS.350 aerobatic biplane.

Could this be a new type that was completely unknown until now?
And is it possible that the designation MS.370 in Henri Lacaze‘s book is wrong or was this parasol dismissed and the designation was reused?

Any inputs?

Source: https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.de...es-appareils-civils-et-militaires-xxe-siecle-


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I have found what appears to be an original drawing of the Morane-Saulnier 370 (see designation in the upper left corner) which is obviously a single-seat/single-strut parasol with an inline engine.
That is a major discovery, thanks a lot! Apparently a case of a designation being reused when the original project was not proceeded with.
 
Could this be a new type that was completely unknown until now?
And is it possible that the designation MS.370 in Henri Lacaze‘s book is wrong or was this parasol dismissed and the designation was reused?

No,the book is right,and the same thing was from TRU magzaine,but as
Stargazer mentioned,maybe re-allocated the designation.
 

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Just a thought here: what if the two MS.370 designs were one and the same? What if the aircraft had been studied both in high-wing and low wing monoplane configurations? Looking at the profile view, it seems obvious to me that the same design would have made a very acceptable low-wing type!

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At first glance your design looks a bit Ryan-ish ;)

I was wrong, when I wrote in my last post that there was no single-strutted Morane-Saulnier (I have corrected it in that post). There was exactly one aircraft with such a wing, the one and only Morane-Saulnier MS.345 F-ANVR. It is said that it ended up in the Spanish Civil War.

There are drawings of that plane on the same site as the above mentioned MS.370 but to find a photo of the MS.345 was quite difficult. But in the end I was lucky, so here we go.
The aircraft looks quite different from its siblings in the MS.340 series.

Morane-Saulnier MS.345-5a.jpg Morane-Saulnier MS.345-2, L-Aeroronautique 12-1935.JPG

The photo is from L'Aeronautique December 1935.
 

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