Long road to the F-111: TAC, SOR.183, SDR 17, WS-324A, TFX

[overscan (PaulMM)]

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[overscan (PaulMM)]

Last one.

 

[Michel Van]

big THX to "reelarchives" and Overscan

About Republic TFX Picture is this a Mockup or Prototype fuselage ?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Its a mockup. Pretty decent one.

 

[blackkite]

Wow owner!!!
It's the first time for me to see such a detailed and clear Republic TFX proposal pictures.
Very exciting!!
Many thanks for sharing us.
We want to see detailed 3-side view drawing.
(Sorry reelarchives. I missed your post.)

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Impressive - thanks!! Mark

 

[Steve Pace]

AWESOME! -SP

 

[circle-5]

Thank you Shawn!

 

[circle-5]

Aside from the twin verticals, this rendering looks to me like an early Republic TFX. AFAIK, Republic was alone in favoring the split-wing VG arrangement, where only the upper half of the wing would swing back over the fixed, highly-swept lower half (as in the D-24 Alliance).

Could someone please confirm or deny my assumption?

This just in: you're looking at the TFX proposal from North American Aviation. This is confirmed with 100% certainty or your money back.

 

[Orionblamblam]

Could someone please confirm or deny my assumption?

Others examined the concept (some of the NASA SCAT concepts used roughly similar wings, and ISTR some Boeing designs), but Republic was kind of alone in seemingly obsessing over the concept.

The SCAT-15A: http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=10472

If you see such a design, it's a safe bet it's a Republic design... or a NASA take on a Republic design.

 

[circle-5]

Well actually, I now have irrefutable evidence from a well-connected source that this is a rendering of the elusive TFX proposal from North American Aviation! I wish I could post this evidence, but it's going into a book, so y'all have to wait a bit...

I will amend my original post.

 

[Graham1973]

Unidentified military(?) aircraft. I thought this might have something to do with the F-111, but now I'm not so sure.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19720065352_1972065352.pdf

 

[sferrin]

Looks like the Republic TFX, though I haven't seen it with fins like that.

 

[Graham1973]

Looks like the Republic TFX, though I haven't seen it with fins like that.

I've found another file covering a single tail fin version of the same aircraft. Cockpit area looks a bit like that of an X-15.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19720065633_1972065633.pdf

 

[blackkite]

Great find!!! It's no doubt what we want to know.

 

[Graham1973]

Great find!!! It's no doubt what we want to know.

From a search into any other documents related to this particular test model. A report into the low speed characteristics of the design, which includes a diagram showing the position of the landing gear.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19720065663_1972065663.pdf

 

[Sundog]

As SFerrin said, it's definitely the Republic TFX, though the twin tailed version is new to me.

With regard to the four engined jet, it's probably just a generic design to test various technologies with reference to a baseline configuration.

 

[Graham1973]

As SFerrin said, it's definitely the Republic TFX, though the twin tailed version is new to me.

With regard to the four engined jet, it's probably just a generic design to test various technologies with reference to a baseline configuration.

We are both right, it is the TFX and it was an F-111 candidate.

There are still a few more documents on this one to come, such as this one which has further information on the various tail combinations tested.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19720065529_1972065529.pdf

 

[Stargazer]

Graham, you posted the same pic twice. Did you mean for four different pics to be posted, or were there only three?

 

[AL]

Circle-5, has this book been previously announced or a new one?

 

[circle-5]

Circle-5, has this book been previously announced or a new one?

No, it's a new book, in its early stages. I believe it will examine a number of specific DoD competitions, with previously unpublished renderings. I don't know anything else, but it should appeal to SPF members.

 

[archipeppe]

about this project ?


I think it's an US one...

A TFX contender?
Never seen it before....

 

[devoitine520]

I thought it could be this one... but... :-[

 

[Stargazer]

Some details make me think of an AMSA proposal from the latter part of the 1960s, but it looks somewhat smaller...

 

[archipeppe]

Some details make me think of an AMSA proposal from the latter part of the 1960s, but it looks somewhat smaller...

And it also looks like something, how can I say, English-ish.....

 

[Jemiba]

Lockheed CL-590-1, see here http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,526.60.html , #63

 

[devoitine520]

Thanks for your interest and your answers! Have a good evening.

 

[PlanesPictures]

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1879.0.html

 

[Stargazer]

After going through all 15 pages of this topic, what really strikes me is that NO image of Grumman's G-283 seems to have surfaced this far (the one in the first page is mislabeled and was correctly identified in later pages).

Has no-one even seen Grumman's original (pre-F-111B) TFX proposal?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Merged additional Republic TFX stuff from NASA to TFX topic.

 

[Bill S]

Mark posted several Vought-Republic TFX images to this discussion back in 2008.
I found a few more that have a different canopy arrangement with a
larger windows for the RIO along with more glass up top. There is also a difference
in the number of missiles carried.


From the Vought Archives

bill

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Nice photos!


Circle-5 posted some pics of a model of this variant with additional glazing back in 2009

 

[Bill S]

Yes Sir I see that now. I was too busy trying not to duplicate items Mark had previously posted that I missed those.


bill

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Not a criticism Bill, just an observation

 

[Bill S]

None taken.

 

[starviking]

Nice pics Bill S!

Are the carried missiles supposed to be Condors?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

AAM-N-10 Eagles.

 

[Pioneer]

Thanks heaps Bill, they look great!!


Regards
Pioneer

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Courtesy of our very own Scott

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