JMSDF (TRDI) Kawasaki P-X (P-1) and C-X (C-2)

[blackkite]

Hi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrUzmoK3Gto

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzOcVSl_yEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwM46EpkdFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhp9-Acjgnw

 

[SpudmanWP]

Multiple AESA within a non-rotating rotodome (so that would be just a 'dome') will give 360 deg coverage. This is not possible with the Wedgetail/Erieye configuration.

Wedgetail has a 360 coverage area.


http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capabilities/MESA/Documents/mesa.pdf

 

[blackkite]

Wow!!
Hi c-2!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBzBBV2pN-s

 

[red admiral]

Wedgetail has a 360 coverage area.
http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capabilities/MESA/Documents/mesa.pdf

Not from the main array. You can't beat geometry.

 

[TomS]

There are endfire arrays in the top "surfboard" of the Wedgetail antenna system.

 

[blackkite]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_AEW%26C

"The 10.8 m long by 3.4 m high antenna assembly incorporates 7.3 m long by 2.7 m high Side-Emitting Electronic Manifold array, with the top hat supporting array providing 120° coverage on port and starboard side, while the top hat array itself provides 60° fore and aft, thus providing a complete 360° coverage."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBppbwricvQ

 

[red admiral]

There are endfire arrays in the top "surfboard" of the Wedgetail antenna system.

Which have massively smaller apertures than the main array and resulting far smaller ranges. The result is a gap in coverage fore and aft of the aircraft.

 

[fightingirish]

Here some pictures of the interior of Kawasaki P-1 Japanese maritime patrol aircraft. B)
Link: http://defence-blog.com/?p=6456

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

The largest window of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcsdrsfxeNA

 

[blackkite]

Hi! P-1 and P-8.　It's so big that the size of the window of P-1 isn't believed. Also MAD is large.
The Japanese airplane is a gorgeous design unusually. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNLvOinF8

http://aviationweek.com/blog/kawasaki-p-1-flies-air-tattoo

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
Source : JWings, No.205/9/2015
You can see many P-1 and C-2 interior pictures in this magazine.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3wsYsDf9ws

 

[Richard N]

The most comprehensive news presentation I've ever seen on an aircraft and I sure wish I knew what was being said. Cool floating graphics of the P-1 and P-8 being compared. The P-1 is my new favorite anti-submarine aircraft. Makes the P-8 look like warm milk. Anyone count the number of aircraft types in the story? Great shot of the F-18's shadow on the P-8.


Any chance of a translation?

 

[fightingirish]

Kawasaki Heavy Industries has announced the successful first flight of third prototype Kawasaki C-2 (68-1203) military transport aircraft in May 17, 2016 (Tuesday).
http://defence-blog.com/news/in-japan-hosted-the-first-flight-of-third-prototype-of-kawasaki-c-2.html

 

[Deino]

Danke für die Info !

 

[Flyaway]

The Japanese Ministry of Defence (MoD) has displayed the newly designed and produced Kawasaki C-2 transport aircraft at the Dubai Airshow, and hopes to export the aircraft to the Gulf region.

On 14 November, Colonel Tokukazu Omine, the C-2 programme manager for the MoD, told Jane’s that Japan anticipates strong interest in the C-2 in the wider Gulf region, particularly from Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) members.

“We have not yet decided to which countries we can export and not export, but once we receive a request from a certain country we can then decide to export or not based on our security values,” Col Omine said.

http://www.janes.com/article/75663/dubai-airshow-2017-japan-looks-to-gulf-for-c-2-export-sales

 

[fightingirish]

Re: Kawasaki C-2

Cockpit and cabin of the Kawasaki C-2 shown the Dubai Air Show 2017.
Source:
https://twitter.com/RAeSTimR/status/929639005595013125
Short video:
https://twitter.com/JeffMartinDC/status/929727676864188416

 

[fightingirish]

Secret Projects Forum » General » Aerospace » Kawasaki P-X and C-X

 

[fightingirish]

Here some pictures of a successor of the NAMC YS-11EA/B for the Japan Air Self-Defense Force. It is based on the Kawasaki C-2.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dougram2020/status/922797649807290370

 

[fightingirish]

Taxi -Test B)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Gifu119V3/status/960801843549892609
Edit:
First flight on 2018-02-08. B)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/munbo327EJ/status/961594953812987904

 

[Grey Havoc]

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/kawasaki-c-2-to-get-an-electronic-warfare-variant-454986/

 

[fightingirish]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282978425385316353

View: https://twitter.com/alert5/status/1282978425385316353?s=19

 

[TomcatViP]

Takeoff and landing would be interesting at the least...

 

[helmutkohl]

I wonder if Japan will be able to successfully export it

C-2 to carry out unpaved runway tests to boost export chance to UAE - Alert 5

Media reports from Japan say that the Kawasaki C-2 transport plane will undergo testing on unpaved runway in order to boost its chance of winning a contract from the UAE. 防衛装備庁（ATLA） / CC BY The testing will be done from October this year. Data will be collected from across different aircraft...

alert5.com

 

[TomcatViP]

Great link. Don't forget to watch the great video of 5 C2 in formation flying as viewed from the cockpit.

 

[riggerrob]

Looks like the new Japanese C-2 is about 1.5 times the size of Brazil's KC390 transport. We wonder which country will export more transports????

 

[Moose]

Looks like the new Japanese C-2 is about 1.5 times the size of Brazil's KC390 transport. We wonder which country will export more transports????

Brazil, probably by a large margin. Size is not the end-all.

 

[NUSNA_Moebius]

The C-2 would have a broader chance if it had it had tanker capability. Surely it's something they could add on and give the design higher flexibility. Hell, it's probably in the works for all we know.

 

[trose213]

Looks like the new Japanese C-2 is about 1.5 times the size of Brazil's KC390 transport. We wonder which country will export more transports????

Brazil, probably by a large margin. Size is not the end-all.

And a lot cheaper.

 

[RavenOne]

First time I saw the P-1 was flying at ROyal International Air Tattoo 2015 at RAF Fairford so here seems photos below. Kawasaki were keen on promoting the P-1 to our MoD for an MPA replacement of our Nimrod....

cheers

 

[RavenOne]

Then at Dubai Air Show 2017, had the pleasure of briefing on the C1 again here are my photos and I was Very impressed with the bunk and galley lol.

cheers

 

[RavenOne]

Then last year, saw both of them on static at Le Bourget

cheers

 

[marauder2048]

How does the C-2 hit its STOL specs without an externally blown flap?

 

[stealthflanker]

How does the C-2 hit its STOL specs without an externally blown flap?

large T/W ratio provided by the CF-6 engine maybe ? The T/W based on wiki shows 0.4. quite considerable slightly more than B-1B and Tu-160 while basically twice the commercial jetliner.

 

[marauder2048]

How does the C-2 hit its STOL specs without an externally blown flap?

large T/W ratio provided by the CF-6 engine maybe ? The T/W based on wiki shows 0.4. quite considerable slightly more than B-1B and Tu-160 while basically twice the commercial jetliner.

Thanks. I'd forgotten how powerful their CF-6 variant is and how big those thrust reversers are.

 

[helmutkohl]

on the subject of the P-X,
does anyone know why Kawasaki stopped development of the related YPX?

It was more or less a P-X with two engines, modified for commercial airlines.
the P-X is about the same size as the 737 and the YPX was claimed to be 15% cheaper to operate

Seeing as how the short range haul aircraft is the largest market and a ton of people are entering
I'm surprised Kawasaki doesn't continue its development especially as most of the airframe is 'proven'

size comparison

YPX

 

[helmutkohl]

Germany no longer interested in the P-1 because they think it can't get military certified in 5 years

ドイツ政府、日本との哨戒機開発に慎重　認証取得で海自Ｐ１不利に：時事ドットコム

【ベルリン時事】日本が防衛装備品輸出の一環として模索してきた、ドイツとフランスによる哨戒機共同開発への参画について、ドイツ政府が慎重姿勢を強めていることが７日、分かった。関係者によると、日本が共同開発のベースとして売り込む海上自衛隊のＰ１哨戒機について、ドイツは早期に軍用機としての型式証明を取得できるかどうか不安視しているという。

www.jiji.com

 

[Grey Havoc]

More than likely a cover for the fact that the German MOD is highly unlikely to receive the funding to buy them any time soon.