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Splitting hairs a bit, but he describes two flights before Wright on the same day. It is, indeed, the same text as in Flight 1911.
Schneiderman said:I do think that Wingknut has a point. There is no doubt at all that Dunne carried out a great deal of valuable pioneering work but in the post WW1 world he was working well outside the mainstream or progressive sides of research and his influence was increasingly marginal. It is hard to attach the term Renaissance Man to his contribution, which is not a criticism, merely an observation. It is, after all, hard stay at the cutting edge of any technology. To be honest I feel that Barnes Wallis suffered from this too.
Schneiderman said:If you review the RAeC archives at
http://raec.daisy.websds.net/search.aspx
you will see that Dunne actually held only a minor role with the Club, serving as a member of the Grounds Committee that administered the Eastchurch flying grounds, where he owned a shed, prior to the War. There does not appear to be any mention of him having any role after 1915.
Schneiderman said:I rate Dunne's contribution to aeronautics in a completely different league to G-W and P B. A true pioneer who laid down a sound base for aerodynamic development.
G-W was great at the promotion of aviation as a business but delivered little to advance the science. His absence after the war was largely because he chose to withdraw after the acrimonious arguments with the Government over Hendon. A loss as an entrepreneur only.
P B's contribution was minimal and his fall of his own making. No loss at all.
Schneiderman said:Curtiss, like Dunne, was a great pioneer and had much to offer, but neatly shot himself in the foot over his feud with the Wrights. A waste of a great talent.
Not at all. All of the main and subcommittee minute books have been scanned and made available on line. They represent a complete record of all the Club's activities.steelpillow said:The Royal Aero Club online material is only a partial set of all its committee minute books, so any "nothing but" judgement based on such a limited docuemnt set does not stand up.
Note that the Grounds Committee is not listed: http://raec.daisy.websds.net/papers.htmSchneiderman said:Not at all. All of the main and subcommittee minute books have been scanned and made available on line. They represent a complete record of all the Club's activities.steelpillow said:The Royal Aero Club online material is only a partial set of all its committee minute books, so any "nothing but" judgement based on such a limited docuemnt set does not stand up.