I would see the designation "Nacelle" as a locator and not an indicator of the type of object subject to maintenance. Hence it should be understood that engines are included (what would explain the high value of the percentage).
oh cool, so it can replace an E-2?They named it F-35B
Yeah ----oh cool, so it can replace an E-2?They named it F-35B
Given the rather dire state that the USN and USMC are in, I wouldn't count on that if I was in the RN's shoes.Especially since they can likely persuade the the US/USMC to embark a Squadron when necessary.
If I am not mistaken the USMC admitted there were like ~60 variations of the MV-22 due to fleet maintenance and updates to units going down range and needing specific equipment added. They announced in 2019(?) a concerted effort to get all of the MV-22 standardized again. I imagine the nacelle is as mentioned a mess with all of those changes.As the V-22 evolved and developed, equipment changes and associated wiring changes left a lot of extra, no-longer-used, wiring in the nacelles as well as the structure evolving. I would reckon a standardized nacelle design, including structure, would improve maintenance and reduce weight by taking out what was no longer needed. A standard fleet-wide nacelle design would also simplify record keeping and the spares that would need to be available.
Their CC-RAM program is consolidating 77 subvariants into 17, pretty wild there are 77 variants hiding under the B model name!If I am not mistaken the USMC admitted there were like ~60 variations of the MV-22 due to fleet maintenance and updates to units going down range and needing specific equipment added. They announced in 2019(?) a concerted effort to get all of the MV-22 standardized again. I imagine the nacelle is as mentioned a mess with all of those changs.As the V-22 evolved and developed, equipment changes and associated wiring changes left a lot of extra, no-longer-used, wiring in the nacelles as well as the structure evolving. I would reckon a standardized nacelle design, including structure, would improve maintenance and reduce weight by taking out what was no longer needed. A standard fleet-wide nacelle design would also simplify record keeping and the spares that would need to be available.
Their CC-RAM program is consolidating 77 subvariants into 17, pretty wild there are 77 variants hiding under the B model name!
Not that wild; I've worked on the nacelle and I can easily believe it. I know of two major structural variants and I don't know how many minor ones, the same with equipment fit and wiring. A lot of it comes as the design gets refined with experience.Their CC-RAM program is consolidating 77 subvariants into 17, pretty wild there are 77 variants hiding under the B model name!If I am not mistaken the USMC admitted there were like ~60 variations of the MV-22 due to fleet maintenance and updates to units going down range and needing specific equipment added. They announced in 2019(?) a concerted effort to get all of the MV-22 standardized again. I imagine the nacelle is as mentioned a mess with all of those changs.As the V-22 evolved and developed, equipment changes and associated wiring changes left a lot of extra, no-longer-used, wiring in the nacelles as well as the structure evolving. I would reckon a standardized nacelle design, including structure, would improve maintenance and reduce weight by taking out what was no longer needed. A standard fleet-wide nacelle design would also simplify record keeping and the spares that would need to be available.
This could be either because Italy is closely looking at MV-22 and/or because US Navy/USMC is closely looking at Cavour carrier.After the qualification process with the F-35B, the Italian Aircraft Carrier Cavour undergone an analogue qualification process with the MV-22B of USMC:
U.S. Marine Corps MV-22B Osprey Conducts Qualifications Flights Aboard Italian Aircraft Carrier Cavour
After completing the Sea Trials with the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B, the aircraft carrier Cavour conducted training with a USMC MV-22B Osprey. As alreadytheaviationist.com
This could be either because Italy is closely looking at MV-22 and/or because US Navy/USMC is closely looking at Cavour carrier.After the qualification process with the F-35B, the Italian Aircraft Carrier Cavour undergone an analogue qualification process with the MV-22B of USMC:
U.S. Marine Corps MV-22B Osprey Conducts Qualifications Flights Aboard Italian Aircraft Carrier Cavour
After completing the Sea Trials with the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B, the aircraft carrier Cavour conducted training with a USMC MV-22B Osprey. As alreadytheaviationist.com
While I personally would recommend V-22 to any allied nation with power projection missions, I will be surprised if V-22 is taken on due to the current maintenance expense. However as mentioned Italy may be interested in FVL (tilt rotor) as a updated and hopefully less expensive alternative. Let's not forget that the Leonardo AW-609 is soon to be going into production and I believe there are already para-military forces that have expressed interest. Also the demonstration of a tilt rotor on the carrier may provide motivation for other Leonardo tilt rotor activities.This could be either because Italy is closely looking at MV-22 and/or because US Navy/USMC is closely looking at Cavour carrier.After the qualification process with the F-35B, the Italian Aircraft Carrier Cavour undergone an analogue qualification process with the MV-22B of USMC:
U.S. Marine Corps MV-22B Osprey Conducts Qualifications Flights Aboard Italian Aircraft Carrier Cavour
After completing the Sea Trials with the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B, the aircraft carrier Cavour conducted training with a USMC MV-22B Osprey. As alreadytheaviationist.com
That’s my neck of the woods my local hospital yes I was there As saw the 352nd media post about the Training exercise. I was stood inside the helipad but opposite thr guys who filmed (one of which I know ) here are my photos when it landed..Watch This CV-22 Osprey's Rotor Downwash Absolutely Demolish A Hospital's Helipad
The Osprey's beastly rotor blast is notoriously powerful, as is showcased in this crazy video clip.www.thedrive.com
Hi Raven, thought of you when i posted this!That’s my neck of the woods my local hospital yes I was there As saw the 352nd media post about the Training exercise. I was stood inside the helipad but opposite thr guys who filmed (one of which I know ) here are my photos when it landed..Watch This CV-22 Osprey's Rotor Downwash Absolutely Demolish A Hospital's Helipad
The Osprey's beastly rotor blast is notoriously powerful, as is showcased in this crazy video clip.www.thedrive.com
That helipad is only meant to be a temporary one as a decade ago 220,000 quid was allocated to construct a proper helipad for Addenbrookes, it might have even been a rooftop one on the new ATC (Addenbrookes Treatment Center) as the Hospital was and still and undergoing constant modernization. But it did not materialize. Before this pad there was another temp one couple of hundred yards around the corner and before that about 3/4 to mile away nesr golf course the EMs helicopters would land then ground transportation would take the patient / trauma victims to the A&E (ER to you folks in the states).
Here are my photos and no I did not see the rubber mats fly into he air on take off as
1) almost brown out conditions
2) where I was stood more interested in getting shots in the air as my sensor couldn’t pick out as lifted few feet from the ground.
3) my acquaintances the other side of the fence caught lol the downwash and mats close Hand but no one got even remotely in danger.
4) I don’t like how the local and national media are stirring things up and leading to anti american Thoughts and opinions, the 7th SOS crews from Mildenhall are pretty professional ImHO having dealt with them over the years.
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Sailors assigned to the “Argonauts” of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 147 load an F-35C Lightning II power module onto a CMV-22B Osprey assigned to the “Titans” of Fleet Logistics Multi-Mission Squadron (VRM) 30 on the flight deck of Nimitz-class nuclear aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Jeffrey Kempton/US Navy.
We maintained those as back in the day 3 decades ago provided the first uk HEMS …BO105 based at RAF Cosford belonging to Midlands Air Ambulance Charity.Back when the East of England Air Ambulance started the pilots didn't worry about nice big landing areas:Back up and running now
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This past summer marked the first deployment for the CMV-22B. Fleet Logistics Multi-Mission Squadron (VRM) 30 embarked on the USS Carl Vinson alongside the F-35C Lightning II and E-2D Advanced Hawkeye squadrons. The first deployed detachment has executed a mission completion rate of 98% and a mission-capable rate of 75%. The CMV-22B is a crucial element of future carrier airwings due to the cargo capacity needed to transport F-35 power modules and additional logistics support for future carrier air wing deployments with next-generation platforms.
It would appear that someone has obtained a copy of the 2022 DOT&E "controlled unclassified information" report, revealed the CMV-22B 'not operationally suitable' no other details given.
The CMV-22B Osprey is a variant of the MV-22B and is the replacement for the C-2A Greyhound for the Carrier Onboard Delivery (COD) mission for 44 aircraft which won out over the upgraded C-2A based on the E2D Hawkeye which was cheaper (MV-22B $80 million ea.) with longer range (1,400 nm vs 1,150 nm) and higher payload (10,000 lbs vs 6,000 lbs).
DOT&E: CMV-22B 'not operationally suitable' | InsideDefense.com
The Navy's new CMV-22B tiltrotor aircraft that will deliver cargo to aircraft carriers is "not operationally suitable," according to the "controlled unclassified information" version of the Pentagon director of operational test and evaluation's annual report.insidedefense.com
PS Very sad news on the loss of the four crew of the MV-22B
Thanks, makes really depressing read eg some quotes/pointsIt would appear that someone has obtained a copy of the 2022 DOT&E "controlled unclassified information" report, revealed the CMV-22B 'not operationally suitable' no other details given.
The CMV-22B Osprey is a variant of the MV-22B and is the replacement for the C-2A Greyhound for the Carrier Onboard Delivery (COD) mission for 44 aircraft which won out over the upgraded C-2A based on the E2D Hawkeye which was cheaper (MV-22B $80 million ea.) with longer range (1,400 nm vs 1,150 nm) and higher payload (10,000 lbs vs 6,000 lbs).
DOT&E: CMV-22B 'not operationally suitable' | InsideDefense.com
The Navy's new CMV-22B tiltrotor aircraft that will deliver cargo to aircraft carriers is "not operationally suitable," according to the "controlled unclassified information" version of the Pentagon director of operational test and evaluation's annual report.insidedefense.com
PS Very sad news on the loss of the four crew of the MV-22B
Other sources provide a lot more detail, and as is often the case with DOT&E reports, it's mostly a lot of small details of shortfalls in reliability and availability.
The Navy’s New CMV-22B Has Been Declared Operational Despite Operational Concerns
The Navy’s new carrier onboard delivery (COD) variant of the V-22 Osprey was given the green light for initial operational capability last December while on its maiden deployment on an aircraft carrier. But concerns about the tilt-rotor’s readiness and some of its communications equipment remain.www.forbes.com
I have heard/read/rumored for many years that the Admirals and Generals want the DOT&E report killed off as it can reveal the truth about their weapons system effectiveness, and it can be too embarrising, they partially succeeded this year as they convinced ret'd General Lloyd Austin the new Sec of Defense to only issue an abbreviated “controlled unclassified information” version of the DOT&E report (Austin is an exception as Congress normally insist on civilian as Sec of Defense so this would not be allowed).DOT&E rarely gives a clean bill of health to any aircraft. I have heard/read/rumored that other than the P-8 series the C/MV-22 series still has the best safety record/flight hour in the US DoD. Until the recent circumstances were obtained it had the highest Operational Tempo in the US DoD.