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New home for 3K at the UMMC Museum in Pyshma:
A mockup of a project for an autonomous «Technological Production Module» was seen in the Khrunichev Center's Museum.
This module had an orbital mass of 88 tons, of which 25 tons were technological equipment and consumables, with an electrical power supply capacity of up to 57 kW, visited by Buran 1-2 times a year (apparently, judging by the APAS docking units).
"semiconductor materials and crystals with a geometrically perfect crystal lattice" in Krater-type furnacesProduction of what?
After NASA announced its space shuttle program, the Soviet Union responded with its own, nearly identical version. The Soviet Buran space shuttle and NASA's own shuttle look pretty similar, in large part because the Soviet version copied the American one. But why? And why didn't the Soviet shuttle program take off like the American one did?
For more on Buran and the shuttle program that barely got off the ground, check out the latest post on VintageSpace: http://www.popsci.com/why-soviet-spac...
Substances only possible in microgravityProduction of what?
That article is irrelevant to this thread. I was asking about the specific payload on Buran. Neither would have allowed production of material in space to be profitable.Substances only possible in microgravity
You was asking about production onboard TPM which never was a payload for Buran. Planned nomenclature is listed at the last picture at @Willythekid post on TPM.I was asking about the specific payload on Buran.
Meh, Buran or Energia, it doesn't change what I said. It was to be launched by the Buran's launch vehicle and to be serviced by Buran. And the article is about recent launch systems.You was asking about production onboard TPM which never was a payload for Buran. Planned nomenclature is listed at the last picture at @Willythekid post on TPM.
Hi All,
I am interested in the number 3 design in the chart a shuttle based on the BOR/spiral data collected.
Anyone have the stats for a shuttle based on the BOR test bed.
nowith main engines under the Energiya core...were there other winged test articles to go in Buran's place?
A waverider or other test object released from AN-225 for low speed tests...
You have to really admire the Soviet re use of things for different purposes. That ADI is also used in Su-33, and modernized variants of IL-95, Su-27/30 and MiG-29.A simulator of the Buran cockpit, fortunately in good condition, is in the museum of the "Central House of Aviation and Cosmonautics DOSAAF of Russia", Moscow.
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You have to really admire the Soviet re use of things for different purposes. That ADI is also used in Su-33, and modernized variants of IL-95, Su-27/30 and MiG-29.
The intake devices indicator of MiG-29/Su-27 is re used here. Radar altimeter is used in MiG-29 and Ka-27.
HSI is extremely common and from MiG-29/Su-27/30/33 and Ka-27 family/Ka-50.
Landing gear indicator looks identical to Su-27.
I’m sure things like those temperature gauges, VVI are in many platforms as well. I’m sure I’m missing many and have some wrong along specific models.
I’m sure many people would look down on this as cobbled together, but to me it says practicality and the ability to easily train both pilots and technicians for it.
Renault 4 - An-225 - Buran
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Stats are hard to come by, but here's a couple of resources that might be helpful - even if they don't cite numbers.Hi All,
I am interested in the number 3 design in the chart a shuttle based on the BOR/spiral data collected.
Anyone have the stats for a shuttle based on the BOR test bed.
"That very same month Yuriy Blokhin, the head of the Mikoyan bureau's space branch, wrote a report for the Central Committee stating that the 75 million rubles invested in Spiral were the only practical basis in the USSR for the creation of a reusable space transportation system. In the following weeks NPO Energiyaís delta-wing orbiter and a ìmodified versionî of Spiral were the subject of a comparative analysis carried out by NPO Energiya, NPO Molniya, TsAGI and TsNIIMash. There seems to have been division within the newly created NPO Molniya itself, with the former Mikoyan people strongly lobbying for the Spiral-based system (code-named 305-1) and the Myasishchev branch supporting the delta-wing orbiter (code-named 305-2). Little is known about the modified Spiral. Comparing it to Buran in one interview, Lozino-Lozinskiy said it had the same general outlines as Spiral (with folded wings) and had a 'larger useful volume'. If this is taken to mean that it could carry more payload than NPO Energiyaís orbiter, the vehicle could no longer have been a small air-launched spaceplane, but a much enlarged version of Spiral launched vertically, presumably by Energiya. After all, by this time the designers were bound by the payload requirements and mission goals for the MKS set out in the February 1976 government decree and the small air-launched Spiral was way below specifications. However, whatever it was that the former Mikoyan people exactly proposed, in the end it was considered safer to rely on the deltawing configuration of the US orbiter, even though that had not yet been proven in flight. The final decision came at a meeting of the Council of Chief Designers on 11 June 1976."
Really enjoyed reading through this! it's always fascinating to revisit how ahead of its time the program was. The fact that Buran pulled off a fully autonomous mission with such precision in 1988 is still impressive today IMO. It wasn’t just a Shuttle clone; the level of automation and systems integration seem like they set the stage for some major advancements in Soviet/Russian spaceflight like with the Antonov An-225. And the mention of using Automated Control System (ACS) to organize their reports is interesting! I didn’t know about that. Also interesting to read about Dyatlov’s recollection of going to Cape Canaveral to attend a NASA space launch only to be re-haunted by the Buran mission again.![]()
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Not really. The shuttle could have done similar. But much like Apollo vs Soyuz, the US preferred to have the crew more in the loop. For example, post Columbia all that was needed was for a cable to be installed and a Shuttle orbiter could undock from the ISS and remotely reenter and land.Really enjoyed reading through this! it's always fascinating to revisit how ahead of its time the program was. The fact that Buran pulled off a fully autonomous mission with such precision in 1988 is still impressive today IMO. It wasn’t just a Shuttle clone; the level of automation and systems integration
As a reaction to all that was lost, I suspect.Why do you keep including the "Rolls Eyes" emoticon in your posts?
Oh, that's actually pretty cool!Not really. The shuttle could have done similar. But much like Apollo vs Soyuz, the US preferred to have the crew more in the loop. For example, post Columbia all that was needed was for a cable to be installed and a Shuttle orbiter could undock from the ISS and remotely reenter and land.
The Buran landing was done with open loop guidance. They ran many simulations of the entry profile and even configured a MIG-25 to fly approaches to model the trajectory and then programmed the vehicle to fly it.
I hope he returnsAs a reaction to all that was lost, I suspect.