Drones and how to kill them?

IAI advances on its SkyCapture and introduces 3D Capture.

View: https://youtu.be/oOIAMtEi3Yg?si=FDRWfJoZsgp7QC33


And intercept tests of both systems:
View: https://youtu.be/Ceu8y9MXf5w?si=OkqO--A5WqG9LbZH


So now IAI is offering a more complete portfolio:

Standard AFVs: IAI M3S2, utilizes existing components such as RWS, EO and radars found on most AFVs.

Dedicated C-UAS: 3D Capture, utilizes M230LF 30mm cannon and dedicated EO+radar on a mobile platform.

Stationary or deployable C-UAS: SkyCapture, utilizes deployable sensor and C2 station, and variety of cannons.

Rafael also unveiled its Typhoon C-UAS:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1906682983890731027

Typhoon is a naval RWS. Israel has reportedly been testing these for a while now.
 
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Ward Carrol has recently uploaded a video concerning the Coyote and Roadrunner anti-drone systems:


Military.com reporter Konstantin Toropin joins the channel to talk about the U.S. Navy's development of Coyote and Roadrunner, new anti-drone systems that are being put aboard destroyers as a lower cost option to Standard missiles used in the Red Sea against the Houthi threat.
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Both of these interceptor drones would be great interest and use for the Ukrainians.
 
kocovgoce said:
Just like in World War I, they were first scouts and then became fighter planes to destroy reconnaissance planes.
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That's how I expect them to evolve as well. I think "fighter drones" are going to get a couple of P90s attached to them.



Sineva said:
And with all the things happening with yemen recently its probably no surprise that yet another MQ-9 got shot down,making this the 16th one since 2023.
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Oh, look, a completely defenseless drone got shot down. I'm about to die of not-surprise.
 
Fascinating look at Ukrainian counter fixed wing UAV operations with Madyars Birds.

Interestingly it shows the recovery of an unused interceptor...which, along with flight speed, altitude and loiter time might make these fixed wing interceptors superior to the FPV type.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41WgQDneX0&ab_channel=UNITED24
 
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Scott Kenny said:
That's how I expect them to evolve as well. I think "fighter drones" are going to get a couple of P90s attached to them.




Oh, look, a completely defenseless drone got shot down. I'm about to die of not-surprise.
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Nope, sticks and shotguns. Already how it’s going in Ukraine.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Sure, now.

I suspect that a pair of P90s would work better, though.
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Idk, birdshot is doing pretty well for them so far.

I mean maybe if these little drones get more durable, but that seems unlikely since that would significantly increase their price and a their biggest draw is that they’re cheap and can be spammed affordably.
 
These things just get smaller.

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Attach to monofilaments to snag/cut other drones?
 
johnpjones1775 said:
Idk, birdshot is doing pretty well for them so far.
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We don't know what payload those shotguns are carrying. It won't be a standard 12 bore cartridge as
tests in the West, and Ukraine and Russia, have shown that birdshot is not sufficient to shoot down a small FPV reliably. Instead a round between that and Buckshot is required with heavier shot (including tungsten).
 
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timmymagic said:
We don't know what payload those shotguns are carrying. It won't be a standard 12 bore cartridge as
tests in the West, and Ukraine and Russia, have shown that birdshot is not sufficient to shoot down a small FPV reliably. Instead a round between that and Buckshot is required with heavier shot (including tungsten).
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Tungsten shot is in sufficient production to make the shells an item of regular commerce in the US. Tungsten Super Shot is super expensive, though, like 10+x the cost of a normal bird shot shell.

Edit: TSS tends to be small pellets, but since they're almost twice the weight of a lead pellet the same size that's good for extending effective range.
 
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Alex Hollings from Sandboxx has just put out a video concerning the Anduril Roadrunner-M and Raytheon Coyote anti-drone interceptor drones deployment that are about to equip carrier strike group ships:


America’s aircraft carriers will now be defended by advanced new turbojet-powered drone interceptor missiles that can loiter in the airspace around the carrier strike group to rapidly engage incoming drone swarms. So, let's talk about Anduril's Roadrunner-M and Raytheon's Coyote interceptors.
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Sineva said:
And yet another one lost,tho according to the statement by the yemenis this is actually the 18th MQ-9 shot down and the 3rd one in 10 days!.
Evidently one was also shot down on april 4th.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1909981231376122184
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Oh, no, someone shot down a slow, non-stealthy, completely undefended target I mean drone.

I'm about to die of not-surprise.
 
Scott Kenny said:
"Oh, look, the Iranians smuggled in a bunch more SAMs and MANPADS."
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Just using a strela as it’s the only non-US MANPAD I am familiar with, but a strela-10 has a maximum service ceiling of 11,500 feet while a reaper drone has a service ceiling of 50,000 feet, so if we’re claiming it’s an increase of MANPADs in enemy hands, that means there severe negligence in the method of operating these drones…
 
johnpjones1775 said:
Just using a strela as it’s the only non-US MANPAD I am familiar with, but a strela-10 has a maximum service ceiling of 11,500 feet while a reaper drone has a service ceiling of 50,000 feet, so if we’re claiming it’s an increase of MANPADs in enemy hands, that means there severe negligence in the method of operating these drones…
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Or someone wanted information that wasn't visible above 12,000ft with the Reaper's EO eyeball...

Edit: but I suspect it's because Iran is getting bigger missiles to the Houthis. Real SAMs, not MANPADs.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Or someone wanted information that wasn't visible above 12,000ft with the Reaper's EO eyeball...

Edit: but I suspect it's because Iran is getting bigger missiles to the Houthis. Real SAMs, not MANPADs.
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Weird how the Biden administration was able to strike targets without losing a reaper every week
 
Scott Kenny said:
Too heavy. Far too heavy, AARGMs are most of 1000lbs.

We'd need to make a new batch of AGM-122 Sidearms.
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I am 99% sure there are AARGM carriers around, there's simply no radiation involved.
And like >50% chance it's all the same 358(maybe 359 now, too), again and again.
 
johnpjones1775 said:
Just using a strela as it’s the only non-US MANPAD I am familiar with, but a strela-10 has a maximum service ceiling of 11,500 feet while a reaper drone has a service ceiling of 50,000 feet, so if we’re claiming it’s an increase of MANPADs in enemy hands, that means there severe negligence in the method of operating these drones…
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Houthis (i.e. Iranian advisors) have the 358 SAM (also known as SA-67). But...they've also used surface launched AA-10 IR...
 
The UK Ministry of Defence tested a high-power microwave weapon called “RapidDestroyer,” developed by a Thales-led consortium. It disables drone electronics using radio frequencies.
• Trial neutralized two 8-drone swarms, with 100+ total drones defeated.
• Aims to counter mass drone warfare seen in Ukraine.

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