Douglas ROMBUS

[Michel Van]

Where is the flight crew on Icarus?

look on cockpit of Shuttle go left on Icarus
there are four littel windows that's there Cockpit

odd the they sitting in a escape capsule for case something goes wrong
a option the passengers don't have !

 

[Orionblamblam]

odd the they sitting in a escape capsule for case something goes wrong
a option the passengers don't have !

WHEEEEE!!!!

 

[Michel Van]

WHEEEEE!!!! in detail

legend

1. Access door to cockpit module
2. Ascend heatshield
3. jettison cover
4. windows (6 in total)
5. Controls panel
6. switch panel
7. instrument panel
8. Pressure hull with parascute
9. Airlock
10. LOX tank of Ithacus
11. Stabiliser
12. flighttest emergency rockets
13. Access to cockpit
14. descent heatshield
15. postion of Cockpit in ithacus

source:
the swiz edition's of "Frontiers in Space"
page 77

 

[Spark]

edition's of "Frontiers in Space"
page 77
[/quote]

Hi,
The idea seemed brilliant and influenced others this side of the pond. There is a detailed cutaway drawing of a recoverable Blue Streak variant powered by RZ12 modified with plug nozzle / shield.

 

[sferrin]

Woo! Was just informed that the documents have been reviewed and are no longer ITAR controlled.

V2N6 will have a whole lot of goodies.

Great news! It seems absurd that declassified technical reports are available under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and then they run afoul of International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR).

...Does sound pretty ITARded, donnit?

"ITARded", I like that.

 

[Triton]

Thank you Orionblamblam and Michel.

 

[Michel Van]

i think wat is about this Rombus payload

it look like earth depart stage from Douglas UMPIRE study
Unfavorable Manned Planetary - Interplanetary Roundtrip Expedition
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/umpuglas.htm

 

[SAustin16]

Michel, thank you for the illustrations. Very interesting.

They really illustrate the astronaut accommodation problems faced by the Grumman engineers on the Apollo LM. How to accommodate the pilots so that they have visibility for launch/docking (forward visibility), and landing (rearward/downward visibility), but since ROMBUS would launch from Earth the G-forces on the pilots also have to be accounted for. According to the illustrations, the pilots would be crushed down into their seats, versus pushed into the back of their seats (as on Apollo / Shuttle). Seated as they are in the illustrations, it looks like they would actually have little forward/downward visibility, only lateral.

For a pilot, vertically landing something as large as ROMBUS (not to mention finding a suitable landing spot) would have been quite "exciting" I would think.

 

[Orionblamblam]

Seated as they are in the illustrations, it looks like they would actually have little forward/downward visibility, only lateral.

For a pilot, vertically landing something as large as ROMBUS (not to mention finding a suitable landing spot) would have been quite "exciting" I would think.

A screenshot of the relevant page of illustrations from the forthcoming APR article...

 

[carmelo]

In Mercury suit? :

 

[Skybolt]

Rombus is from 1963, so I guess they used what they knew.

 

[OM]

...Looks to me more like crew compartment emergency ejection system drawings than landing. One assumes from the last two panels - if read from left-right-top-down - the compartment had some degree of maneuverability so as to ensure a water landing.

 

[Orionblamblam]

Finally finished the last of the major drawings for the article.

 

[Michel Van]

OMG

Thx for picture !

 

[Orionblamblam]

Yeeesh. Just broke the 130 page mark with issue V2N6... and I'm still awaiting another few pages of stuff from a source.

The ROMBUS/ICARUS article starts on page 12, ends on page 94. Anybody complains that this article doesn't have enough info, Imagonnasmackm.

 

[Michel Van]

82 pages of glorious ROMBUS Family
that more as in "Frontiers of Space" by Philip Bono / Kennneth Gatland ! ! !

issue V2N6 gonna be Ultra subzero Cool

 

[Triton]

Icarus blueprint.

Source:http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=6298

 

[GeorgeA]

Douglas (Bono) ROMBUS presentation from 1963 AIAA summer meeting:

http://hdl.handle.net/2060/19630007932

 

[Michel Van]

thx for the Data, GeorgeA

 

[OM]

Icarus blueprint.

Source:http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=6298

...Looks like a purple print to me

 

[Orionblamblam]

...Looks like a purple print to me

Not one of my better efforts, admittedly.

Hey, you're alive. There was specualtion on SSH that you are dead. Aided in no small part due to OMblog vanishing.

 

[Triton]

Douglas (Bono) ROMBUS presentation from 1963 AIAA summer meeting:

http://hdl.handle.net/2060/19630007932

Wow, added to NTRS on June 1, 2011. Good find George and thanks for sharing!

 

[OM]

...Looks like a purple print to me

Not one of my better efforts, admittedly.

Hey, you're alive. There was specualtion on SSH that you are dead. Aided in no small part due to OMblog vanishing.

...I've actually been near death for the past few months with a liver condition known as coleostatic hepatitis, a condition that's contracted either by a negative interaction between two or more medications, or more rarely by contracting a parasite from a pet. In typical OM fashion, in my case it turned out to be both, which is why it's taken so long to treat. I've still been a little active online, but off of usenet due to financial reasons - the same ones that have OMWorld offline. I'd love to get both back up and running, but I need a) a decent *free* usenet provider that has a decent retention span, and b) a blog service that will allow me to transfer and repost my old OMBlog entries with the dates set to when they were actually posted. So far, b) appears to not exist in any way, shape or form.

...Still, as for my being "dead", I'd be curious as to how many of the trolls popped up to wish me a swift journey to Hell

 

[Grey Havoc]

Ouch! Glad you're on the mend, OM.

 

[blackstar]

You don't know him very well.

 

[Orionblamblam]

You don't know him very well.

Classy. Real classy.

 

[Byeman]

[...Still, as for my being "dead", I'd be curious as to how many of the trolls popped up to wish me a swift journey to Hell

You think too highly of yourself

 

[OM]

You don't know him very well.

Classy. Real classy.

...Ah, let him rant. I've been his particular windmill to tilt for over a decade now, so it hardly bothers me anymore.

 

[Michel Van]

found in this blog, Info about Space Book "Book of Space"
http://dreamsofspace.blogspot.com/2010/06/book-of-space-adventures-1963-1964-1965.html


It has littel section about Pegasus and Ithacus Concept, with this Picture
I think its official art from Douglas Pegasus proposal


the Module for the space station are in size of Skylab

 

[Pem Tech]

Wow....
Great info! Thanks to all that contributed.

 

[Michel Van]

Found on NTRS a PDF
ROMBUS - An Integrated Systems Concept for a Reusable Orbital Module (Booster and Utility Shuttle)
by Bono, Phillip
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19630007932_1963007932.pdf

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression of Douglas Ithacus.

Source:
http://www.themodellingnews.com/2011/12/latest-news-from-fantastic-plastic.html

 

[hesham]

Hi,


http://blog.modernmechanix.com/future-gis-to-ride-rocket-troopship/

 

[GTX]

Hasn't this already been covered in other threads?

 

[Triton]

Douglas Ithacus and Ithacus Jr.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4577.msg65927.html#msg65927

 

[hesham]

Sorry for this double post;


I don't see it.

 

[Triton]

Douglas ROMBUS press photo found on eBay.

URL:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Missile-Space-Future-SPACE-VEHICLE-CONCEPT-Press-Photo-/200887482758?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item2ec5d3b986

 

[Orionblamblam]

It'd be nice to get, at long last, a high-quality version of that image. Pity about the price, though.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a Douglas LLV or Lunar Logistics Vehicle.


https://archive.org/stream/missilesrockets1119unse#page/78/mode/2up

 

[hesham]

Hi,


I don't know if that Douglas improved Delta launch vehicle is proper in this topic
or not.


Missile and Rockets