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bobbymike said:I am a broken record
I know the feeling!
bobbymike said:I am a broken record
Talking to submarines isn't the only communications improvement that's dead in the water for the Navy.
In a nuclear crisis, emergency action messages from the president would travel to subs and Air Force bombers over a network with known problems regarding information assurance.
The network is collectively known as the Nuclear Command, Control and Communications Hybrid Solution — “hybrid” because it includes computers and antennas belonging to both the Air Force and Navy.
For the Navy, that means the Fixed Submarine Broadcast System sites that deliver emergency action messages to subs, plus a network element called Nova. The Air Force uses its own equipment and software to get emergency action messages to its nuclear-armed bombers.
Work on a ground-up replacement to be called the NC3 Long Term Solution were canceled during deliberations over the 2013 Pentagon budget request.
The Air Force needed its portion of the money for a higher priority, according to a February 2012 budget justification document.
Nice thing about some of the older systems is that the Chinese don't know how to hack them.Grey Havoc said:In Nuclear Crisis, Navy Would Use Aging Network (DefenseNews)
Talking to submarines isn't the only communications improvement that's dead in the water for the Navy.
In a nuclear crisis, emergency action messages from the president would travel to subs and Air Force bombers over a network with known problems regarding information assurance.
The network is collectively known as the Nuclear Command, Control and Communications Hybrid Solution — “hybrid” because it includes computers and antennas belonging to both the Air Force and Navy.
For the Navy, that means the Fixed Submarine Broadcast System sites that deliver emergency action messages to subs, plus a network element called Nova. The Air Force uses its own equipment and software to get emergency action messages to its nuclear-armed bombers.
Work on a ground-up replacement to be called the NC3 Long Term Solution were canceled during deliberations over the 2013 Pentagon budget request.
The Air Force needed its portion of the money for a higher priority, according to a February 2012 budget justification document.
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TomS said:When I see sources like Newsmax, Breitbart and the Washington Times, I automatically question anything they're saying. Those sources do not have good track records for accurate and non-sensationalized reporting.
TomS said:Read the last line of the article; there are other supercomputers still being used for the stockpile stewardship role.
bobbymike said:As the Air Force and Navy continue to consider the feasibility of a joint life-extension program for two of their nuclear warheads, officials say the challenge of a joint effort lies in determining the most effective level of commonality to pursue. In August 2010, the Air Force, working with the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA), initiated a concept study of the possibility of a life-extension program (LEP) for its W78 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) warhead. The service -- with the goal of finding commonality, streamlining some processes and generating cost savings -- invited the Navy to participate with its W88 submarine-launched ballistic missile warhead, which is approximately 10 years newer than the W78. In June 2012, the program, now referred to as W78/88-1 LEP, was approved for further research, including an analysis of alternatives and a feasibility study, both of which are ongoing. The effort is led by a joint Defense Department/NNSA Project Officers Group, which is chaired by the Air Force and co-chaired by the Navy. Col. C.J. Johnson, director of the Air Force Nuclear Weapons Center’s nuclear capabilities directorate, told in a March 26 email that the program is moving ahead on schedule with the current challenge of finding the right balance of commonality between the two warheads so as not to increase the complexity of the LEP. “Managing expectations about commonality and aligning schedules and resources are two significant challenges for the program,” Johnson said. “There is a perception that maximizing commonality will reduce costs, but that is not evident in the program.” The Navy and Air Force programs have similarities, but their missions require some unique characteristics. Introducing too much commonality makes the effort to meet mission requirements for both systems more complicated -- and complexity, Johnson said, contributes to higher program costs. “There is a proper balance of commonality and complexity that minimizes costs while achieving threshold performance requirements,” Johnson said. Another challenge, according to Johnson, is in aligning Air Force, Navy and NNSA schedules and resources. Because each of the organizations is operating with limited and competing time and resources, Johnson said, it is tricky and requires “constant focus” to make sure the parties are moving forward at a steady rate. Further complicating the program time line is the difference in age -- and in the aging process -- between the two missiles, which drives the need for life extension. The Navy’s W88 was produced about 10 years after the W78 and, according to Johnson, the Navy incorporated some design changes that cause it to age more slowly than the Air Force’s warhead. Once the ongoing studies are complete, the program will move into a phase of design definition and cost study, which precedes it becoming a program of record. According to now-retired Air Force Maj. Gen. William Chambers, who spoke to ITAF on Feb. 26, the service would like to have an LEP in place by the mid-2020s, which would allow it to “marry up” with a follow-on ICBM. “That’s why we need it then, but warhead life extensions are largely driven by our annual surveillance of those warheads and how they are aging,” Chambers said. “Ours is aging a little differently than the Navy’s, but every year, that’s reassessed.
Grey Havoc said:A bit of good news for once: http://www.w54.biz/showthread.php?127-The-USN-s-future&p=36301&viewfull=1#post36301
sferrin said:Not sure what news on a piece of electronic warfare gear has to do with nuclear weapons. ???
TomS said:sferrin said:Not sure what news on a piece of electronic warfare gear has to do with nuclear weapons. ???
The link takes me to an item about the successful testing of COBRA JUDY replacement (maybe scroll down a bit?), so it's relevant in that it's a monitoring system for foreign ballistic missile and space launch capabilities.
bobbymike said:JROC Set To Review Air Force Proposal For Nuclear-Tipped Cruise Missile The Air Force has finished its proposal for a new nuclear-armed, bomber-launched cruise missile, submitting its analysis of alternatives for a Long-Range Standoff Weapon to the Office of the Secretary of Defense and preparing to ask the Joint Requirements Oversight Council to validate the findings next month -------------------------------- If the W80 is being retired new warhead?
My thought exactly for years, especially since a nuclear JASSM wouldn't technically fall under New-START.seruriermarshal said:JASSM - NUKE ?
2IDSGT said:My thought exactly for years, especially since a nuclear JASSM wouldn't technically fall under New-START.seruriermarshal said:JASSM - NUKE ?
2IDSGT said:A new ALCM would be the ideal deterrent for the new century vs all the new 2nd-tier nuke powers in the world. No giant IR plumes to accidentally set off a global exchange.
Yeah, the IR plume at the end would be the ultimate fait-accompli though, allowing us to retaliate against a nuclear pissant without having to pre-inform one of the sugardaddies.bobbymike said:No IR plume at launch quite a big one when it reaches its destination ;D2IDSGT said:A new ALCM would be the ideal deterrent for the new century vs all the new 2nd-tier nuke powers in the world. No giant IR plumes to accidentally set off a global exchange.
Any speculation that it would need a newly designed warhead or do we have enough W80's?
I believe the term we're looking for here is "chickenshit."bobbymike said:So North Korea is deterring us???!!!! What?
Or more likely "We want it to be absolutly certain that THEY jumped... Just before we kicked their ass..."2IDSGT said:I believe the term we're looking for here is "chickenshit."bobbymike said:So North Korea is deterring us???!!!! What?