Chinese Airborne Radars

[PDMODE]

F2 do you have any more chinese book want to search ? I can help you with it.

 

[stealthflanker]

Also, i visited Paralay's forum and found this. Apparently this is the AESA antenna intended for J-16.


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Going with Deino's post in previous page, for 1760 TRM count, Using Irbis-E size (90 cm, 0.63 sqm area) Showed element area of about 0.000357 sqm. Based on the arrangement of the array, it appears to use triangular lattice. Using the relationship of the element spacing (Anyone interested can read the deriviation in Chapter 13 of "Radar Handbook 3rd Edition" and assumption of full 120 degrees scanning. The frequency of the radar could be estimated to be 9136 MHz. If the antenna is Bars sized with 0.78 sqm. The frequency would be 8211 MHz.

 

[PDMODE]

Thank you! That series has a book a the J-10 and it’s creator. If you see it would you let me know? It might have useful stuff.

Of course , I will try to find it when I over the busy work this week.

 

[PDMODE]

Thank you! That series has a book a the J-10 and it’s creator. If you see it would you let me know? It might have useful stuff.

Good news, I found it and I will upload it tomorrow.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Removed some posts. Please don't upload or link to entire copies of published books in the forum.

 

[F-2]

KLJ-7A AESA with modes

 

[publiusr]

China is getting better at IR imaging too

Breaking new ground in aerial imaging: the AVIID dataset and visible-to-infrared image translation

The rapid development of infrared technology, especially infrared cameras on UAVs, has expanded the applications of aerial infrared photography in military, industrial, agricultural, and environmental contexts.

www.eurekalert.org

 

[F-2]

Was this ever posted here?

View attachment 675051

More on the J-16 radar

 

[Deino]

More on the J-16 radar

Thanks ... most interesting is, we do not even have a designation for this radar!

 

[PDMODE]

Thanks ... most interesting is, we do not even have a designation for this radar!

Type1493d

 

[Deino]

Type1493d

Oh! Thanks! ... but do you also know the designations of the PESA in the J-10B, the AESA used by the J-11BG and J-10C and most of all, I heard reports, the latest batch J-10S (or AS) refitted with WS-10B engines would already use an AESA too! Do you know here more too?

 

[F-2]

From a otherwise irrelevant radar report

 

[F-2]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1620374934685118466

View: https://twitter.com/JosephWen___/status/1620374934685118466

 

[PDMODE]

I actually have the fcs part of the book

 

[PDMODE]

Which show it can only use 4 missile at the same time

 

[Life of Tyo]

in description the history of J-8I this radar the interceptor , everyone know type of radar

View: https://youtu.be/sz6L6EiLI9k?si=pMPeK42q7BDpjWgx

 

[dinobeaning]

More on the J-16 radar

hello, sorry for the late ping, but do you have a source for this? i would love to read more.

 

[F-2]

hello, sorry for the late ping, but do you have a source for this? i would love to read more.

I don’t know what the original paper was titled unfortunately. I’ve only seen it cut up

 

[Waterballoon]

More on the J-16 radar

A 250km detection range against a 0.1 m2 target? That means 400km against a 1m2 target roughly.

Hard to believe.

 

[stealthflanker]

Yeah... i suspect it's from different paper on ground based radars as it mention Height. Not a problem for airborne radar but ground based one.

 

[Eagle2009]

in description the history of J-8I this radar the interceptor , everyone know type of radar

View: https://youtu.be/sz6L6EiLI9k?si=pMPeK42q7BDpjWgx

Not sure about the first image but the second image has an identical antenna design to existing images of the Type 204A radar, used in early J-8/I variants.

 

[F-2]

A 250km detection range against a 0.1 m2 target? That means 400km against a 1m2 target roughly.

Hard to believe.

Yeah... i suspect it's from different paper on ground based radars as it mention Height. Not a problem for airborne radar but ground based one.

I found a copy of the full paper

 

[stealthflanker]

Nice work. Guess those are for general AESA designs. not really specific on any fighters.

 

[F-2]

Nice work. Guess those are for general AESA designs. not really specific on any fighters.

Yea I do no think they are for a particular fighter but I have seen the smaller one associated with the J-10B radar. I wonder if it’s the same technology, like a demonstrator.

 

[F-2]

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m.bilibili.com

Some footage I haven’t seen. Seems like a 14 institute radar history from J-8 but I can’t read Chinese.

 

[F-2]

Moreover, on Page 91， 全球防衛雜誌 Defence International 2007 April 272 reads：
“就雷達模式而言，Type 1473/KLJ-3目前應已具備完整的空對空能力，如單目標追蹤（STT）、掃瞄帶測距（RWS）、空中 近戰次模式/ACM Mode（HUD. Vertical scan, boresight, wide-angle acquisition. Stewing）、掃瞄帶追蹤（TWS）、速度搜索（Velocity search）、機群解析（raid assessment）.空對地测距（AGR）：至於空對面雷達模式包括都卜勒敏銳波（DBS）、真實波地面測繪（RBGM）、地面活動目標顯示（GMTI）、地面活動目標追蹤（GMTT），地形（TA）、固定目標追蹤（FTT）、地形追蹤（TF）、海面目標搜尋（SS）.則可能僅完成部 份模式的驗證，多半的功能應在
發展或驗證中”
Which roughly translates to:
"As far as radar mode is concerned, Type 1473/KLJ-3 should currently have complete air-to-air capabilities, such as single target tracking (STT), scanning band ranging (RWS), air close combat sub-mode/ACM Mode (HUD, Vertical scan, boresight, wide-angle acquisition, Slewing), scanning band tracking (TWS), velocity search (Velocity search), fleet analysis (raid assessment), air-to-ground ranging (AGR): As for the air-to-ground radar mode Including Doppler sensitivity wave (DBS), real wave ground mapping (RBGM), ground moving target display (GMTI), ground moving target tracking (GMTT). terrain avoidance (TA), fixed target tracking (FTT). terrain tracking (TF) and Sea Target Search (SS), it is possible that only part of the model verification has been completed. Most of the functions should be under development or verification."

J-10A radar (1473), I would like to track down a copy of the primary source “ 全球防衛雜誌 Defence International 2007 April 272”

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