hesham said:In the book (The Osprey Encyclopedia of Russian Aircraft),I found under the title L.B. Kurchyevskii on pages 160 and 161 that :
he was the designer of APK series of large-calibre cannon and he
worked in USP for NKTP and he invited the aircraft constructors
to make a fighters to armed them with these guns , such as IL
and Cheranovskii BICh-17 fighters,after he was arrested there
were other two projects one from BICh design and the anther
from P.D.Gurshin at MAI.
I didn't know those projects but I suggest that for BICh,it was BICh-19,
because BICh-16,17,18,20,21 and 22 were well known.
hesham said:hesham said:In the book (The Osprey Encyclopedia of Russian Aircraft),I found under the title L.B. Kurchyevskii on pages 160 and 161 that :
he was the designer of APK series of large-calibre cannon and he
worked in USP for NKTP and he invited the aircraft constructors
to make a fighters to armed them with these guns , such as IL
and Cheranovskii BICh-17 fighters,after he was arrested there
were other two projects one from BICh design and the anther
from P.D.Gurshin at MAI.
I didn't know those projects but I suggest that for BICh,it was BICh-19,
because BICh-16,17,18,20,21 and 22 were well known.
Excellent work Skyblazer,
and for BICh-19,I suggest it was this fighter,
Vladimir said:
borovik said:The last two is Lippisch "Delta-I"
Skyblazer said:Vladimir said:
Vladimir, the first document I already enhanced and segmented within each corresponding entry.
The second document is the infamous BICh-19 fake which I warned about, and I believe it should not be in this thread...
Vladimir said:Skyblazer said:Hi,Skyblazer i did not know that BICh-19 fake.. i think that it is one of the Cheranovsky's concept...
Skyblazer said:Vladimir said:Skyblazer said:Hi,Skyblazer i did not know that BICh-19 fake.. i think that it is one of the Cheranovsky's concept...
Well, I've read elsewhere that it's a fake, and I do believe it. First, you can look at the design and then look at the BICh-20. You'll see that there is quite a difference in design philosophy! The would-be "BICh-19" is virtually a flying saucer, jet-powered and highly streamlined, not very 1930s to me (the air intake, the shrouded exhaust, the bubble canopy all look much too modern to me). There was it seems, however, a real Cheranovsky design that reminded of it a bit, but it was designed later and was not as detailed as this (the bat shaped wing design which the designer holds in the first undesignated picture I shared).
Vladimir said:Cheranovsky's aircraft family and size comparison
dan_inbox said:Thanks for a great recapitulative series.
To complete it, I have this photo for the BiCh-16
dan_inbox said:the posting script of the forum seems severely unstable. Font sizes change randomly after any paste, and the attachment box has stopped working again on my system
Skyblazer said:You made my day, folks! Thank you so much Vladimir, Maveric and hesham, for this GREAT additional material!