I must've been thinking of the older 737 models including the USAF's C-43 as they're smaller than the C-135 line, it just drives home how big the 737 airframe has grown as it has evolved over the decades since its' first flight in 1967.

It's the wings where the big differences show up between the 'C-135 and 737s/P-8A ...

RC-135 - Wing area 226 m2; span 39.88 m;
P-8A ---- Wing area 154 m2; span 37.64 m (raked wingtips)
737-900- Wing area 125 m2; span 34.32 m (incl. winglets)
 
It's the wings where the big differences show up between the 'C-135 and 737s/P-8A ...

RC-135 - Wing area 226 m2; span 39.88 m;
P-8A ---- Wing area 154 m2; span 37.64 m (raked wingtips)
737-900- Wing area 125 m2; span 34.32 m (incl. winglets)
Wing area and span alone are apples to orange comparisons. Better comparisons are wing loading and aspect ratio, thrust loading is better for any twin vs a quad. FWIW the stock -800 has an AR of 9.44 so

RC-135 W/L 647 kg/m2 AR 7
P-8 W/L 557 kg/m2 AR ~10

The P-8 is working with a more lightly loaded, efficient wing and higher thrust, more efficient engines, advantage P-8.
 
Wing area and span alone are apples to orange comparisons. Better comparisons are wing loading and aspect ratio, thrust loading is better for any twin vs a quad. FWIW the stock -800 has an AR of 9.44 so

RC-135 W/L 647 kg/m2 AR 7
P-8 W/L 557 kg/m2 AR ~10

The P-8 is working with a more lightly loaded, efficient wing and higher thrust, more efficient engines, advantage P-8.

Sure, but I responding to a statement comparing physical size. So, maybe apples-to-apples but no taste test?
 
Sure, but I responding to a statement comparing physical size. So, maybe apples-to-apples but no taste test?
The floorspace on a -800 737 is very close to any -135. If you really want the length, a -900 is longer volume much better. Electronics and all are smaller and more efficient these days, the P-8 is beyond good enough to replace a 1950's airframe.

PS. I've flown on a "special" -135's with a lot of "special" -135 aircrew...
 
... the P-8 is beyond good enough to replace a 1950's airframe...

Okay, so you're keen on the P-8A. What I don't recall is ever saying that measurement comparisons implied the superiority of a "special" airframe first flown before I was born. So, I guess, enjoy ...
 
Okay, so you're keen on the P-8A. What I don't recall is ever saying that measurement comparisons implied the superiority of a "special" airframe first flown before I was born. So, I guess, enjoy ...
First, a lot of the NRE for the P-8 is already done, that's huge. I've worked certification, military and civil, the "paperwork exercise" consumes vast amounts of money. Second, the -800 platform gets to a higher altitude faster which gives a much better radar horizon which can matter for certain wavelengths. Third, two 1990's engines burn far less gas than four 1980's engines, operating costs matter these days. Finally, a 737 fuselage is based off of the 707 fuselage which is bigger than the -80, KC-135 fuselage. The extra width gives more room for equipment, operator stations, cooling, and the large fuselage compared to the biz jets used these days for the function allow for bigger, more sensitive receivers.
 
First, a lot of the NRE for the P-8 is already done, that's huge. I've worked certification, military and civil, the "paperwork exercise" consumes vast amounts of money. Second, the -800 platform gets to a higher altitude faster which gives a much better radar horizon which can matter for certain wavelengths. Third, two 1990's engines burn far less gas than four 1980's engines, operating costs matter these days. Finally, a 737 fuselage is based off of the 707 fuselage which is bigger than the -80, KC-135 fuselage. The extra width gives more room for equipment, operator stations, cooling, and the large fuselage compared to the biz jets used these days for the function allow for bigger, more sensitive receivers.
As I noted above, the 707/727/737 148" diameter fuselage is all of 4" larger in diameter than the 144" KC-135 fuselage (actually, both are larger in diameter than the 367-80's 132" diameter fuselage).
 
As I noted above, the 707/727/737 148" diameter fuselage is all of 4" larger in diameter than the 144" KC-135 fuselage (actually, both are larger in diameter than the 367-80's 132" diameter fuselage).
Indeed, no intent to ignore your contribution, merely a summary of facts already in evidence combined with a lot of flight hours in -135's and as a passenger in -800, -900, -8 Max, and -9 Max over the last two decades.
 
UK has signed a defence trade deal with Germany over stuff like the opening of a factory for tank barrel production that will use steel from Forgemasters, participation in the European Long Range Missile program, a ten year agreement on Boxer development and land based drones. Also grants the Luftwaffe occasional basing rights in Lossiemouth for Poseidon's and licenses the Germans to procure Sting Ray torpedoes to arm them. Some other defence projects mentioned, a joint project to equip Ukrainian Sea Kings with missiles, joint work on loyal wingman drones as well as exploring the possibility of a joint program for development of Maritime Uncrewed Air System.

 
LAst week, we had pair of Navy Boeing P-8 Poseidon with Multi-Mission Pod AN/APS-154 arrive at RAF Mildenhall alas only got the second one last Thursday, from Sigonella so here are my photos below.

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also received in the post from Fox-One, RAF P-9 poseidon Hawk Tuah patch lol

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cheers
 

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