Boeing F-47 Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD)

[Desert Watchdog]

The Art for the Boeing FA-XX has canards just saying

I was trying to remember where I saw something like that.

 

[Springtime]

I was trying to remember where I saw something like that.

This

 

[Sevrent]

It must be invisible then, because all I see are drapes....

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its further to the right past that giant gold trophy thing

 

[TomcatViP]

@bring_it_on : We need a descent pic at every beginning of a long thread!


@books : Levcons?

 

[tacitblue1973]

Be funny if it had the same starter sound as the P-26 Peashooter. Wasn't that the last fighter that had Boeing as lead contractor?

 

[Springtime]

But the wings canards? Are more Bird of Prey like

 

[Hydroman]

So since Boeing got selected for what is now the F-47 Trumpmeister, the USAF NGAD program was not is such disarray as was the original perception by the USAF. I think this decision was and is based upon China's new rapid development activities and Boeing needs to remain solvent but I'm sure with a lot of caveats from the USAF, don't screw it up. So NG will more than likely get the F/A-XX. If the USG tries for a dual-service, F-4 type scenario then stand-by for a s**t storm, hopefully, USAF NGAD and USN F/A-XX designs meet their unique mission requirements as independent programs.

 

[F-2]

Boeing wins contract for U.S. Air Force's secretive F-47 fighter jet

President Donald Trump announced Friday that Boeing will build the Air Force's future fighter jet.

torontosun.com

Another picture

 

[kqcke for you]

Boeing wins contract for U.S. Air Force's secretive F-47 fighter jet

President Donald Trump announced Friday that Boeing will build the Air Force's future fighter jet.

torontosun.com

Another picture

Gives me a BoP vibe from the front but the rest looks like a tailless F-35

 

[Desert Watchdog]

Boeing wins contract for U.S. Air Force's secretive F-47 fighter jet

President Donald Trump announced Friday that Boeing will build the Air Force's future fighter jet.

torontosun.com

Another picture

I don't think I see canards there in that render.

 

[Kiltonge]

Be funny if it had the same starter sound as the P-26 Peashooter. Wasn't that the last fighter that had Boeing as lead contractor?

Their last effort was the XP-29 with cantilevered wing and retractable gear:



It didn't have canards either...

 

[Michel Van]

47? Don't you mean 24, er 36?

Could be...

 

[Desert Watchdog]

I wonder when they will upload better-quality images.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Boeing wins contract for U.S. Air Force's secretive F-47 fighter jet

President Donald Trump announced Friday that Boeing will build the Air Force's future fighter jet.

torontosun.com

Another picture

Looks to be either side or belly intakes then.

 

[Sevrent]

It must be invisible then, because all I see are drapes....

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Some news outlet finally posted it jeez

 

[FlyGuy369]

Some news outlet finally posted it jeez View attachment 763756

THATS THE VOODOO II PLANFORM

 

[fightingirish]

Here the Statement by Chief of Staff of the Air Force Gen. David Allvin on the USAF NGAD Contract Award.
Link:

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/4131094/statement-by-chief-of-staff-of-the-air-force-gen-david-allvin-on-the-usaf-ngad

 

[4decaa]

Not a moment too soon.

Those are some interesting chines.

 

[Hanse]

Some news outlet finally posted it jeez View attachment 763756

I sincerely hope that's fake.

 

[Sevrent]

Here the Statement by Chief of Staff of the Air Force Gen. David Allvin on the USAF NGAD Contract Award.
Link:

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/4131094/statement-by-chief-of-staff-of-the-air-force-gen-david-allvin-on-the-usaf-ngad

Huh

 

[sublight_]

its further to the right past that giant gold trophy thing

Thank you. I stand corrected.

 

[books]

I think we may be seeing one wing and one v tail?

 

[Sevrent]

I sincerely hope that's fake.

I think its just camera perspective. Theres some weird fish eye lens effect going on in that image that makes the radome look tiny, while in the other image the radome is huge.

 

[Training_Dummy]

Thanks fightingirish, lots to unpack from Alvin’s statement

 

[books]

I don't think I see canards there in that render.

Agree, although all my opinions are tentative at the moment. I hadn’t seen that picture and was comparing the other one in canard vs BoP terms in my head

 

[books]

Will fly during this administration!

 

[Desert Watchdog]

Will fly during this administration!

Yeah, that grabbed my attention too.

 

[books]

Cost less than F-22 may be a reference to MOSA and a replace-rather-than-overhaul-and-update strategy.

Not denying that this could have a lower acquisition cost, just saying I don’t think his wording guarantees it.

 

[4decaa]

Per trump:
"an experimental version of the plane has secretly been flying for almost 5 years"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903118400378765492

View: https://x.com/Doha104p3/status/1903118400378765492

 

[bring_it_on]

Huh View attachment 763758

Why can't it cost less than the F-22? The relevant metric here would be cost of operating. If it is designed with OMS, and has a larger installed based and offers decades of more advancements it could well be easier and more affordable to sustain than F-22's.

 

[Sukhoi Su-57]

I think its just camera perspective. Theres some weird fish eye lens effect going on in that image that makes the radome look tiny, while in the other image the radome is huge.

In comparison with f-22

 

[Flyaway]

Boeing wins contract for U.S. Air Force's secretive F-47 fighter jet

President Donald Trump announced Friday that Boeing will build the Air Force's future fighter jet.

torontosun.com

Another picture

Considering Boeing’s recent issues should they really have picked an image where it looks like it’s on fire or at least trailing smoke.

 

[zebra159357]

Cue the BOP

 

[Sevrent]

Why can't it cost less than the F-22? The relevant metric here would be cost of operating. If it is designed with OMS, and has a larger installed based and offers decades of more advancements it could well be easier and more affordable to sustain than F-22's.

Yeah im interested in how they're really defining that. But im skeptical thats F-47 APUC is going to cost less than the F-22's APUC

 

[Hanse]

Que the BOP
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Please be fake, please be fake, please be fake.

 

[bring_it_on]

Yeah im interested in how they're really defining that. But im skeptical thats F-47 APUC is going to cost less than the F-22's APUC

There is no 'present' F-22 APUC. No one has priced out an F-22 production because you wouldn't be building an F-22 like it is now if you were to..well begining producing F-22's so a simple inflation adjustment is probably not very relevant from the USAF CSAF perspective (alternatives are).

 

[joshjosh]

Isn't this new thread just going to fracture the discussion? This is still the NGAD program, after all.

 

[Sukhoi Su-57]

Please be fake, please be fake, please be fake.

Quiet aint fake

 

[FighterJock]

Let's see what happens to the eventual cost of the F-47 when it enters service, it will be interesting to see how many get ordered I really wish that it is anywhere beyond 300 fighters.

 

[BDF]