Aviation, Imagination of the Future from the Past

[hesham]

From Air Force 1948.

 

[hesham]

From Boeing magazine 1950

 

[Hood]

There was a similar 1946 proposal for Morecambe Bay in Lancashire for transatlantic airliners and flying boats by building a giant causeway with runways and pools for flying boats with express rail routes to Manchester. I came across it in an old Flight but alas can't find it again.

Just happened to stumble upon mention of this scheme in Hansard, the scheme seems to be earlier than I thought, if MPs were talking about in in January 1944 then the legwork must have been done during 1943.

Morecambe Bay Area (Hansard, 18 January 1944)

Morecambe Bay Area (Hansard, 18 January 1944)

api.parliament.uk

 

[Nik]

Tangential but, IIRC, the risk of severe end-century flooding inland from estuary has revived that Classic causeway plan. Road & tram across, storm-surge / saline-incursion mitigation, a vast small-boat marine lake, marinas etc. Perhaps some tidal power, perhaps a modest wind-farm...
The latter 'vertical axis' to reduce avian casualties...
And, based on the marsh areas behind Southport sea-wall plus 'Martin Mere', fair provision for migrating birds...

 

[Deltafan]

Hi,

I'm not sure I'm in the right part of the forum to ask the question, but I don't think my question merits opening a specific topic.

On the cover of volume 22 of the French serie of WW2 uchronic and fantastic comics "Wunderwaffen" ("Luftwaffe 1946" like) , there are German Lippisch P.13 A, but also an American twin-jet that I cannot identify.

To the extent that the planes in this serie represent real projects from manufacturers of that era, could anyone among the SPF forum users be able to identify it?

As the title of this album is The Flight of the Thunderbird, it could be the name of the plane on the cover.

 

[Deltafan]

I looked through the album in the bookstore.

Apparently, the "Thunderbird" did not come from a project of the time, but is a completely fictitious device. Its builder, also fictitious, is a man called "Elon", visibly inspired by the Elon (Musk) of our time.

The Elon Thunderbird ("prototype" from 1946 exceeding 1000 km/h) seems to have quite a few influences, the main one seeming to me to be the Swedish single-jet Saab J29 Tunnan.

 

[hesham]

From Naval Aviation News 1948,

here is a multi-wing aircraft for the future,designed by an amateur,looks
like this one;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/h-capelis-tandem-wing-airliner-projects.26678/#post-565151

 

[hesham]

From Flight 1951,

here is a Model for Ambulance aircraft.

 

[hesham]

Amazing RR idea,from Aeroplane 1959.,

 

[Hood]

Yet another crazy contraption, this time an autogyro thingy with eight contra-rotating blades, skis and a machine gun.

 

[southwestforests]

Amazing RR idea,from Aeroplane 1959.,

That brings to mind the 20th century history of quite a number of lightweight railway vehicles which suffered from a not exactly comfortable ride quality which was ultimately traced to being a result their light weight.
I'm thinking that factor may be at odds with ease of air transport.

 

[hesham]

From American Aviation 1966.

 

[hesham]

From Aeroplane 1960.

 

[publiusr]

Comet times four…

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1959.

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1956,

a tailsitter.

 

[hesham]

From Aeroplane 1958.

 

[Flogger15]

These are 3 original pencil drawings. unknown history, might be some kids sketches from the 1930's. Nicely done! Last picture is all 3 with dirty glass.
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[riggerrob]

These are 3 original pencil drawings. unknown history, might be some kids sketches from the 1930's. Nicely done! Last picture is all 3 with dirty glass.
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Your first sketch resembles a cross between a Vought F4U Corsair and the sole Gregor FDB-1 built by Canadian Car and Foundry during the late 1930s.

 

[hesham]

Amazing find Flogger.

From, Army Information Digest 1958.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

In flightglobal many imagination for future from the past,
such as those projects.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1955/1955%20-%200134.html

The whole page.

 

[hesham]

From Boeing Magazine 1945 ?!.

 

[southwestforests]

From Boeing Magazine 1945 ?!.

Do appreciate image being big enough to read the text.

 

[southwestforests]

From Boeing Magazine 1945 ?!.

Since I've had this from our public library for about a week now, I had to smile at end of article on that page where it said, "practical aircraft of the Buck Rogers variety ..."

 

[hesham]

From Flight 1960.

 

[hesham]

From Ryan Report of 1965.

 

[hesham]

From Flying 1969/4.

 

[hesham]

From L'AIR 1951,

just for fun.

 

[hesham]

From this report

 

[southwestforests]

From L'AIR 1951,

just for fun.

Fantastically impractical, but I like it enough to buy a plastic model kit of it if there was one and it had nicely done crew figures at their stations.

 

[hesham]

From United State Army 1954/55

the helicopter shot jet fighter ?!.

 

[hesham]

From United State Army 1954/55

the helicopter shot jet fighter ?!.

The same source.

 

[RAP]

Found on the web.

 

[southwestforests]

Found on the web.

Along with the fanciful helo, and don't you know Airfix would have had a 1/72 scale model kit of it!, note bottom edge where a hanging monorail feeds in to the heliport structure, wonder if Hornby would have had that in OO scale.

 

[hesham]

From United State Army 1954/55

the helicopter shot jet fighter ?!.

That's a good idea for snipe the enemy aircraft,and apart of air defense system,
must be considered in the future

 

[riggerrob]

From United State Army 1954/55

the helicopter shot jet fighter ?!.

Firing up - through your own main rotor does not make for a long flying career.
Hah!
Hah!

 

[southwestforests]

Firing up - through your own main rotor does not make for a long flying career.

As for that illustration I'm going to call that appearance an illusion created by distorting a 3 dimensional scene to fit a 2 dimensional medium. As for potential reality, what is there to prevent the use of a descendant of Antony Fokker's 1915 interrupter gear?

Podcast Article - Interrupter Gear - World War I Centennial site

Site of the United States WWI Centennial Commission, and the Doughboy Foundation, building the National WWI Memorial in Washington, D.C.

www.worldwar1centennial.org

 

[hesham]

From L'Air 1953.

 

[southwestforests]

From L'Air 1953.

Airliner tail in illustration second page bottom right very much has a Douglas DC-7 shape.
A reference, https://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/exhibits/aircraft/dc-7b-ship-717

Haven't seen it done, but that delta wing thing, I can imagine it rendered in a gold color in the cover art of a 1950s pulp magazine.

 

[hesham]

Airliner tail in illustration second page bottom right very much has a Douglas DC-7 shape.
A reference, https://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/exhibits/aircraft/dc-7b-ship-717

Haven't seen it done, but that delta wing thing, I can imagine it rendered in a gold color in the cover art of a 1950s pulp magazine.

The surprise is that,Douglas had some tailless delta wing transport projects,
such as Model 1042,1067 & 1274 ?!.