AARGM / VFDR Missiles

Looks like a waste of money. PrsM would do the ground launch mission better and cheaper.
 
sferrin said:
Looks like a waste of money. PrsM would do the ground launch mission better and cheaper.
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If PrsM exists today, why would anybody bother with a similar missile in 4-7 years? The only way the AARGM gets considered is if they can condense development to 1 - 2 years to be ready aroudn the same time as PrsM.
 
DrRansom said:
sferrin said:
Looks like a waste of money. PrsM would do the ground launch mission better and cheaper.
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If PrsM exists today, why would anybody bother with a similar missile in 4-7 years? The only way the AARGM gets considered is if they can condense development to 1 - 2 years to be ready aroudn the same time as PrsM.
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Kinematic wise, AARGM is inferior to PrsM
But it smaller though, better for load out?
 
Second try, after my morning caffeine.

With a 21-inch booster (either Mk72 or Mk135), ARreS would have some ridiculous kinematics and possibly out-sticks PrSM. But with such a booster, it's bigger than PrSM, not smaller.
 
TomS said:
Second try, after my morning caffeine.

With a 21-inch booster (either Mk72 or Mk135), ARreS would have some ridiculous kinematics and possibly out-sticks PrSM. But with such a booster, it's bigger than PrSM, not smaller.
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What is AReS?
 
sferrin said:
TomS said:
Second try, after my morning caffeine.

With a 21-inch booster (either Mk72 or Mk135), ARreS would have some ridiculous kinematics and possibly out-sticks PrSM. But with such a booster, it's bigger than PrSM, not smaller.
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What is AReS?
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Advanced Reactive Strike. IIt's Northrop Grumman's name for this surface-launched AARGM-ER.
 
Northrop Grumman’s Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile Extended Range Completes First Successful Missile Live Fire

LOS ANGELES – Aug. 2, 2021 –The U.S. Navy has successfully completed the first live fire of the Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE: NOC) AGM-88G Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile Extended Range (AARGM-ER) from a U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet. The test was conducted on July 19 at the Point Mugu Sea Range off the coast of southern California. The missile successfully demonstrated the long range capability of the new missile design.

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Northrop Grumman’s Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile Extended Range Completes First Successful Missile Live Fire

LOS ANGELES – Aug. 2, 2021 –The U.S. Navy has successfully completed the first live fire of the Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE: NOC) AGM-88G Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile Extended Range (AARGM-ER) from a U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet. The...
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seruriermarshal said:
sferrin said:
Sounds like THEY should run hypersonic testing.
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Yes . From "successfully demonstrated the long range capability"
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That's a press release blurb when you meet all of your objectives. When you don't then they start with " Woke up at 5 AM and made coffee"...."Successfully took off with the test article" BUT " failed to ignite the rocket motor".
 
bring_it_on said:
seruriermarshal said:
sferrin said:
Sounds like THEY should run hypersonic testing.
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Yes . From "successfully demonstrated the long range capability"
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That's a press release blurb when you meet all of your objectives. When you don't then they start with " Woke up at 5 AM and made coffee"...."Successfully took off with the test article" BUT " failed to ignite the rocket motor".
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Yeah but so far ARRW hasn't even been able to do that.

Test 1: Failed to release munition.
Test 2: Dropped munition, and it's priceless glider, into the ocean.

Not exactly an auspicious start.
 
Thanks the new engine. We all know that AARGM-ER has longer range than AARGM ,( with speed of it Mach 3-4 ).
 
sferrin said:
bring_it_on said:
seruriermarshal said:
sferrin said:
Sounds like THEY should run hypersonic testing.
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Yes . From "successfully demonstrated the long range capability"
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That's a press release blurb when you meet all of your objectives. When you don't then they start with " Woke up at 5 AM and made coffee"...."Successfully took off with the test article" BUT " failed to ignite the rocket motor".
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Yeah but so far ARRW hasn't even been able to do that.

Test 1: Failed to release munition.
Test 2: Dropped munition, and it's priceless glider, into the ocean.

Not exactly an auspicious start.
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Right, though it did check off some of the objectives but missed the most important one on the last test. Anyhow, it is a much more accelerated weapon program so they were bound to run into issues. Let's see how they recover and what flight test pace they are able to hit. Technically, the AF still wants to have the ARRW operational by late next year though that will be tough to do now that they are about 8 months behind schedule and there does not appear to be test infrastructure and asset availability to support recovering that (through increased pace of testing) without cutting planned flight testing activity. Unless the AFRL/DARPA has been quitely making testing progress on the TBG, I still think its that program and testing pace of the glider that is the biggest driver of ARRW schedule than any missed booster test deadlines. If they get that wrong then they would just have to put the the ARRW program on hold until they have a working glider. The biggest risk on ARRW was/is not having a validated glider prior to starting the program. The original plan was to have TBG in flight testing within a year of ARRW program start but it does not appear they are at that stage even now.
 
At the start of AARGM-ER program, there was a navy info graphic showing the range gained with different propulsion option: dual pulse rocket, solid fuel ramjet, liquid fuel ramjet ...etc. Unfortunately , i can't seem to dig them up anymore. Does anyone still got that
 
The MS-C decision comes just over two years after the Navy awarded the Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) contract to its prime contractor, Northrop Grumman. The team conducted the first live-fire event in July to verify system integration and rocket motor performance, as well as initiate modeling and simulation validation.

Captive and live fire flight testing is planned to continue through 2022 and initial operational capability is planned for 2023.
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Navy’s AARGM-ER to enter production | NAVAIR

The Navy’s Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile – Extended Range (AARGM-ER) received Milestone C (MS-C) approval Aug. 23, allowing the program to move into its first phase of production. The Navy plans to award the first two low-rate initial production lots over the next several months.
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Bhurki said:
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Highly possible AARGM-ER will be loaded on dual rack in the future
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Yep... The graphic in the bottom left shows a capability to carry 10 Aargm-Er.
8 exterior (4 x dual racks) + 1 in each bay.

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I have seen the top 4 images in image in the video released by the company
Please share the image source
Where did this picture come from?
PDF ? Catalog ATK?
Thanks
 
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Alliant Techsystems, a wholly owned subsidiary of Northrop Grumman, won a contract valued $46 million for Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missiles (AARGM) to Germany.

This modification exercises an option to procure full rate production Lot 11 AARGMs to include the conversion of 51 AGM-88B High Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARMs) into AGM-88E AARGM all-up-rounds, as well as related supplies and services necessary for their manufacture, spares, and fleet deployment for the government of Germany. Work is expected to be completed in March 2025.

In July 2019, the U.S. State Department approved the sale of 91 AGM-88E AARGM plus eight training missiles to be equipped on the German Air Force’s Panavia Tornado fighters.

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LOS ANGELES – Feb. 7, 2022 – Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE: NOC) announced the successful completion of the second flight test of its AGM-88G Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile Extended Range (AARGM-ER). The U.S. Navy launched the missile from an F/A-18 Super Hornet aircraft on Jan. 21 at the Point Mugu Sea Range off the coast of southern California. The missile performed an extended range profile, engaging a land-based, emitter target staged at the range on San Nicholas Island.
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Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile Extended Range Completes Second Successful Missile Live Fire

LOS ANGELES – Feb. 7, 2022 – Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE: NOC) announced the successful completion of the second flight test of its AGM-88G Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile Extended Range (AARGM-ER). The U.S. Navy launched the missile from...
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F-35B probably cary AARGM-ER externally
 
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Is there really anything we don't know about the AARGM-ER? It seems like it is the existing in service weapon with the same warhead and guidance packaged to an 11" motor with a faring adaptor.
 
Lc89 said:
It'd make more sense to put the Mk72 or Mk135 on the PRSM.
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I know the Mk-72 is used for the Standard missile family however I haven't heard of the Mk-135 before, what is it used for?
 

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