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I working on Story were German history goes little different
Here goes Aerospace industry in VTOL with Do-31 and EWR VJ 101 get into service.
One of civilian application is a VTOL Business Jet
I took the MBB HFB 320 Jet as template
With Mass 9600 kg it need around...
Here's a really interesting account I found on Project Terminated, by Ronnie Serrano:
'... a couple drawings were done by Pierre Mion for the U.S Navy in the late-1960s which shows using converted Fletcher-class destroyers into makeshift "Harrier Carriers". The plan at the time is to convert...
Operational test of Jetpacks has resurfaced fuelled by Startups with no real market and a full trail of blazing innovation.
I think it's time we have a thread to discuss gently and keep each other updated on the subject.
Here is an illustration of a discutable experiment:
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In 1968 the China attempted to develop a VTOL fighter, so engineers came up with adding lift fans to the J-6 to finish it by 1971. Lack of success and the death of some of the CCP leadership gets the project canceled in 1972.
Slightly more sane proposal
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In "Storia Militare" n. 196 (January 2010) Enrico Cernuschi described the unknown project of an early Italian helicopter/VTOL carrier of 60's.
During 1965 the Italian Navy seriously considered the possibility to modify the proposed second "Vittorio Veneto" cruiser into a sort of small carrier...
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Hi All -
Mixed in with the Eaglet and Mini-Eaglet drawings was this single seat 4 fan design. Have no idea what this was meant for - nonetheless it is interesting!
Enjoy the Day! Mark
In the late 60s the Germans were looking
for a replacement for its ground attack
Fiat G 91s.
As an offset against costs for BAOR and
RAF Germany the UK succeeds in selling
Harriers to the Bundeswehr and getting
Dornier involved in its production and
a joint trainer which becomes the Hawk.
HS and...
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Airbus is apparently getting in on the act, with a project called the CityAirbus Vahana. Via Gizmodo: http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/news-media/corporate-magazine/Forum-88/My-Kind-Of-Flyover.html
1983, rather than 1982 is a key date for decisions for the RN and UK defence as a whole, in the light of the Falklands and it's effect not just on defence thinking but on the UK populace's attitude to their country. As surely as it was to the political establishment.
But in terms of changes a...
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From Ronnie Serrano on the "Project Terminated" page on Facebook:
Source:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=876967599032670&set=gm.646696872124265&type=1&theater
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Today is the 50th anniverary of the cancellation of the P1154 and HS681, and of the go-ahead for what became the Harrier and the Nimrod:
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1965/feb/02/actions-of-her-majestys-government
Happily, my P1154 history article has been restored after the ISP...
Hi,
I know we spoke about this aircraft before,but I get a new clearer PDF and I prefer to open
a new topic for it,with a clearer artist drawing.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2140.msg110711.html#msg110711
Anton Flettner, well known for his helicopters in Germany emigrated to the USA in 1947 and
founded the Flettner Aircraft Corporation. There he designed a heavy lift helicopter with
gas powered intermeshing rotors. Forward propulsion was given by two propellers, the rotors
should turn freely...
I know that this is a well trodden subject but I thought that it would be interesting to compare the plans with what happened in reality.
Ground Attack/Recce Squadrons
It was planned to replace the Hunter with the 1154 Harrier in 8 squadrons: 2 in the UK, 2 in Germany, 2 in the Gulf and 2 in...
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late 1960s
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vtol
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