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    The Swedish connection instead of French/'Euro NATO' connection for the UK?

    IOW - earlier & greater cooperation with SAAB and the British companies, while the cooperation between the later and the French and other European NATO is much smaller? Draken was powered by the British engine, Viggen was supposed to be powered by the Medway, while the Gripen should've been just...
  2. M

    Trinity House Agreement - new joint UK-Germany arms procurement framework

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-germany-trinity-house-agreement-on-defence https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-germany-trinity-house-agreement-on-defence-joint-communique
  3. Grey Havoc

    Boris Johnson considered Netherlands incursion during Covid-19 pandemic

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/27/boris-johnson-diary-covid-vaccine-invade-netherlands/
  4. Grey Havoc

    UK Soft Vertical Launch - A Flexible Solution to an Integral Concept for Ground & Naval Air Defence (2000 AD)

    https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADP010844.pdf Note that the mention of 'battleships' in the paper is likely a reference to the Arsenal Ship concept which was in vogue at the time. Incidentally, this paper was part of a larger NATO sponsored report called the Concepts de systemes pour la...
  5. uk 75

    Tiger class cruisers opinions

    The three Tiger class cruisers arouse strong opinions. As the only major non-carrier RN warships built after WW2 they mark the transition of the RN from a force built round its battleships' big guns to a missile dominated navy. The 6" and 3" guns fitted to them were supposed to be a new approach...
  6. Flyaway

    Supermarine Swift

    Part of the one documentary threads on this channel. States it’s considered one of the worst aircraft to fly with the RAF. View: https://youtu.be/OO_t3HFGrhw?si=BJGkVc9QwQeiINZa
  7. Pirate Pete

    Different thought process for Post WW2 British Navy

    I an sure I will call down a whole host of ‘trouble’ on my head for raising this, but, Here we go… We all know that the Royal Navy post WW2 was in an invidious position regards available finance and the shifting sands of changing priorities. One thing I think was the (in retrospect at least)...
  8. uk 75

    Royal Navy frigates in the 70s

    The saga of the Royal Navy's carriers after 1966 has been the main focus of interest here, but the workhorse of the RN then as now was the frigate. By the 1970s the RN had plans to replace its Type 12 Leander class frigates with the larger all missile armed Type 22. Leanders were designed...
  9. R

    Does 'Flexible Response' NEED 'massive Retaliation' first?

    The 'Massive Retaliation' era ~1957-1967 appears to have skewed Defence Projects and Procurement compared to what occurred previously and what occurred in the 'Flexible Response' era where conventional forces were given much greater priority compared to nuclear forces. This made me think that if...
  10. Grey Havoc

    Development of the Fast Mine Warfare Ship 343 (West Germany, 1970s / 1980s)

    The rest of the article can be found reproduced in the JPRS / West Europe Report (15th June, 1983) linked below, pdf pages 7 - 14: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA373042.pdf A bit more of the history, in particular the post-Cold war part of it, can be found in the archived Forecast...
  11. Jason Dykstra (Wyvern)

    BAE Systems Mi-24 upgrade

    It may come as a surprise to think that the British (BAE specifically), would consider upgrading the Hind. However, Western upgrades to the Hind are relatively common, with the French company SAGEM and Israel’s Elbit offering upgrades, and South Africa’s ATE offering the significantly modified...
  12. R

    EC-121 Proliferation?

    The USN acquired 142 Lockheed EC121s in the early 50s to mount long-range early warning barrier patrols in the Atlantic and Pacific. The main strength was 5 sqns for each ocean with various cats and dogs supporting units. The barrier patrol lasted until 1965 and afterwards the USN transferred 30...
  13. A

    Lockheed Extensible Launching System

    I tried searching, but wasn't able to find out if this was discussed before. And if this topic is in the wrong forum, could it be moved to the correct one, please? Anyway, I'm curious about Lockheed's Extensible Launching System for the Mk.41 VLS. Extensible Launching System What caught my eye...
  14. hesham

    French New Interceptor Competition of 1953 & Its contenders

    I know we already discussed that in this topic, https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/mirages-i-iii-5-prototypes-projects.36283/ But I want to split this subject in another thread,the tenders of that contest are, - Nord N-1540,N.1541,N.2540,N.3540,N.3541 & N.5010 Harpon - SNCASE SE.5020 &...
  15. H

    Who is the designer of the Northrop F-5?

    Was it Edgar Schmued or Welko Gasich/Lee Begin that designed the F-5 or not?
  16. Forest Green

    RAF AEW&C - E-7A Wedgetail

    View: https://x.com/AirPowerNEW1/status/1818080247754948968
  17. Y

    Rest of the World without the UK's 1965 cancellations

    The possibility of the UK avoiding the 1965 aircraft cancellations has been discussed ad nauseam. I don't propose to get into it here - assume a collective delusion of the UK government, the discovery of a massive gold deposit, or intervention from extra-terrestrial intelligences, as you see...
  18. Gentleman’s Astronautics

    Flashpoint - Cold War gone hot, 1948

    Just came across Operation Downfall, and was pondering. What might be the political situation that would warrant the plan coming to fruition? What projects would be pursued and put into production, and what wouldn't? Who would win the war? Perhaps the 3rd world war would be caused by a...
  19. uk 75

    NATO helicopter gunship for the 70s

    Although the excellent AH1 Cobra was deployed to Europe in the 1970s and received TOW missiles to help it kill Soviet armour, noone else in NATO could afford it. That left W Germany sticking six HOT missile launchers on its Bo 105 light observation helicopter and the British Army SS11 missiles...
  20. Grey Havoc

    Last known Battle of Britain pilot celebrates 105th Birthday

    I should have posted this yesterday (the birthday was actually the day before but I only saw it on Thursday). Group Captain John 'Paddy' Hemingway DFC: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0717/1460456-raf-hemingway-birthday/...
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