As said in the tin.
When you think about it, it would avoid an immense amount of suffering and money waste.
Kind of
- screw the Tigers
- screw CVA-01
- screw Spey Phantoms
do we agree all three above were expensive boondoggles ? so good riddance (sorry, that's the radical in me... !)
Also...
the Falklands war occurred in 82
Ark Royal (or another ship of the same class?) was decommissioned in 79
What if they had opted to delay the decommissioning by a few years
but then the Falkland war occurred anyways
Would the Ark Royal have been sent?
would it have contributed differently than...
aircraft carrier
alternate history
argentine republic
cold war
early 1980s
falklands conflict
falklands war
fleetairarm
great britain
late 1970s
royal navy
united kingdom
v/stol
vtol
The arrival of a new book on the F8 Crusader got me thinking of the old chestnut of giving the RN a fighter
for Ark, Eagle, Victorious and Hermes
I have always felt that if we had done what France did and purchased the F8 we could have kept a carrier force
as long as the French did. We could...
air defence
alternate history
chance vought
cold war
fighter
fleetairarmfleetair defense interceptor
great britain
jet age
ling-temco-vought
royal navy
short brothers plc
united states
vought
Blue Envoy Press are pleased to announce The Admiralty and the Helicopter by James Jackson.
A companion volume to The Air Staff and the Helicopter, this latest addition to the Project Tech Profile series charts the development of the Admiralty’s pioneering requirements and the numerous...
In July 1945 Supermarine had not yet finalised their design for the Type 392 Attacker. This drawing (39200 116) shows one of the alternatives considered; note the design of the tail surfaces, the repositioned air intakes, the four cannon mounted alongside the cockpit, and, of course, the...
1983, rather than 1982 is a key date for decisions for the RN and UK defence as a whole, in the light of the Falklands and it's effect not just on defence thinking but on the UK populace's attitude to their country. As surely as it was to the political establishment.
But in terms of changes a...
1980s
1990s
aew
alternate history
anti-air warfare
anti-submarine warfare
anti-surface warfare
area air defence
cold war
cruiser
fleetairarm
great britain
north atlantic treaty organisation
nuclear powered vessels
royal navy
ssk
supersonic
v/stol aircraft
vstol carriers
vtol
1950s
bundesmarine
cold war
early 1960s
fleetairarm
great britain
interceptor
kommando der marineflieger
marineflieger
royal air force
royal navy
saunders-roe
west germany
The usual crew of retired military and political types are warning that the UK is not able to meet its defence requirements with the present budget and kit.
Given the collective expertise on this board what advice would you give the Prime Minister who takes over in May after the election?
I...
I've caught papacavy's "What If" disease, but this is purely for interest rather than literary purposes.
As we all know, the Fairey Battle was an airplane which, once tested in combat, did not imbue its crews with any confidence that they would come home from attacking defended targets. Let's...
allies
alternate history
anti-tank
armeé de l'air
battle of france
british expeditionary force
close air support
dive bomber
fighter bomber
fleetairarm
french third republic
interwar period
l'aéronautique navale
light bomber
marine nationale
operation david
royal air force
royal navy
united kingdom
world war ii
Just wondered why this amazing aircraft doesn't enjoy such a reputation as compared to TSR2?
Thinking back to the sixties would it not have made sense to take up the Yorkshire suggestion rather than one from a neighbouring county? After all a supersonic Bucc would have saved developmental...
I know this is a well covered subject but I was wondering if there is anywhere an RN document from 1965 or 1966 showing what its planned 1975 or so carrier fleet was supposed to look like.
Based on what has been posted here already here is a stab at what I think was intended
Fleet Carriers...
Anyone have a three view drawing of the Blackburn B.29 torpedo bomber?
prior posting: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4519.msg35771/topicseen.html#msg35771
Let us consider the following. Suppose that CVA-01 and her two sisters are built as originally planned*, entering service in, say, '72, '75 and '78 respectively. The CAG would have been, iirc, 36 jets, 18 Phantoms and 18 Buccaneers on each ship. Given that the FAA replaced these aircraft with...
One of the joys of this site is the quantity of info available on unbuilt aircraft projects. Particularly tantalising are the various projects in the 70s and 80s for a supersonic VSTOL to replace the Harrier.
The Bae 1216 has been the best covered thanks to Michael Pryce. Various US designs...
cold war
fleetairarm
france
great britain
north atlantic treaty organisation
nuclear battlefield
royal navy
united states
united states marine corps
united states navy
v/stol aircraft
vstol
vtol
The F4 Phantom might have failed to materialise as the wonderful plane which the RAF and RN used to fill various gaps from the 60s onwards. In a Phantomless world would P1154 have been developed as planned in 1963 for both RAF and RN or would the Lightning have been developed in its swing wing...
alternate history
british aircraft corporation
cold war
early 1960s
english electric company limited
fleetairarm
great britain
hawker siddeley aviation ltd
mcdonnell aircraft corporation
nuclear battlefield
raf fighter command
royal air force
royal navy
stol
strategic air command
united states
united states air force
united states navy
v/stol aircraft
vtol
The next PTP I am writing, on Harrier Projects, is about 50% written.
It will feature some things already known about, but tell their full story, such as:
as well as revealing wholly new stories, such as the full saga of the Harrier III, the proposed Sea Harrier FRS.3 and some weird and...
cold war
fleetairarm
great britain
north atlantic treaty organisation
nuclear battlefield
royal air force
royal navy
sea harrier
united states
united states marine corps
united states navy
v/stol aircraft
vstol
vtol
.
I don't know where this really belongs (if at all) anyway, out of interest, Air Britain have (?) released a new book on RAF unmanned aircraft / target drones / recon drones called "Sitting Ducks and Peeping Toms" - I do NOT know if any projected models are included :-...
aerial gunnery target
aerial torpedo
british army
cold war
drone
early 21st century
electronic warfare
fleetairarm
interwar period
late 20th century
photo-recce
post-cold war
royal air force
royal navy
tactical reconnaissance
target drone
unmanned aerial vehicle
war on terror
world war i
world war ii
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.