Forbidden Planet Remake

why ?
can they to restore the original to 4K and bring into cinemas.
much better and cheaper as remake ala Disney...
Here are some iconoclastic ideas for destroying a science fiction masterpiece:

-The Krells disappeared as a result of climate change caused by their technology.

-Morbius was a nuclear engineer whose clumsiness destroyed the Bellerophon, killing everyone except his daughter, who was affected by radiation and is a living vegetable.

-Robby goes mad and kills Morbius with the phrase: we should never have left Earth.

-The brave captain of the cruiser C-57D, a descendant of Lieutenant Uhura, saves the situation, no matter what, we leave that to the screenwriter…because it is not necessary for this sequel to be based on a Shakespearean play.


I don't plan to watch the movie, please let me know if I have been correct in any of my predictions.

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Something else can still be done: the C-57D is a cargo ship powered by solar sails.
 
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The following never happened.

Meeting among some Hollywood executives.

"I know. Let's try something new!"

Are you out of your mind? That would require a lot of work. You're new here so let me tell you The Secret: Remakes sell. That's been true for a long time.

"But, but, aren't we supposed to be creatives?"

Let me tell you the other secret: Making money comes first, followed by the cheapest movies we can make.

After the new guy leaves, the REAL SECRET gets told: We're all political activists now. Don't tell the new guy, yet.
 
That reason why Japanese with $11 million made new creative impulse: Godzilla: MINUS ONE
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXl8zJ_jhEc


and Hollywood ?
Disney does the fourth complete reshoot of the Movie Captain America: Brave New World
That movie production reach $500 million, and still people walk out test screening...
Go Woke, Go Broke...
 
A remake was attempted in 1993 to be directed by Irvin Kirshner. Production design was by Ralph McQuarrie for the Krell and Syd Mead for the human hardware and Stan Winstone for Robby.
 

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Anyone remember the Lost in Space remake at Netflix? It started off vaguely intriguing but by the time I stopped watching it in season two it become about as interesting as watching paint dry
 
Anyone remember the Lost in Space remake at Netflix? It started off vaguely intriguing but by the time I stopped watching it in season two it become about as interesting as watching paint dry
The same thing happened to me with the second season of Resident Alien



 

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It was exactly that. And it was dumb...
History of the program and its success




There was a stark contrast to the other space adventure TV series airing that day, Star Trek. In Lost in Space , the psychological development of the characters, the seriousness of the themes, the dramatic depth or even the coherence of the story were ignored. The phrase "Don't be logical with me!" ("Don't get logical with me!") it was frequently used by Allen when the writers demanded certain changes in his scripts.

Critics complained that this was the television equivalent of showing a shiny object to distract the undemanding viewer. However, despite the criticism, the show was a success. By the sixth episode, 23% of televisions in America tuned in to the program, thus placing it among the ten most watched programs of the time.2 Over time it has also become a cult series.
 
A remake of the classic Forbidden Planet? What could possibly go wrong? Just ask the people who did the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still in 2008. How did that work out, guys?? There's a reason the word "Forbidden" is in the title....

Hollyweird!! Want to do something that could make a great story or series and has never been put on film? check out James Blish's CIties in Flight series of novels.

Not that I am a Luddite who rejects modern technology, but with sophisticated CGI, it's too damn tempting and easy to try to dazzle people with it during remakes. Bright shiny objects.
Ask yourself this. Who was scarier: The original 1951 Gort or the 2008 Gort? Talk among yourselves.
 
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A Forbidden Planet remake might work if they borrow from other films--SOLARIS and the horror film "Wishmaster" with a little bit of ANNIHILATION.

I would have a later Earth mission on another world find Robby...with a second Krell machine.

Here, the device acts a bit like a genie...wishes based on proximity to this smaller device...things get more tangible as crewmen near the core of the machine itself.
 
A Forbidden Planet remake might work if they borrow from other films--SOLARIS and the horror film "Wishmaster" with a little bit of ANNIHILATION.

I would have a later Earth mission on another world find Robby...with a second Krell machine.

Here, the device acts a bit like a genie...wishes based on proximity to this smaller device...things get more tangible as crewmen near the core of the machine itself.

Not sure if I agree with the details here, but I definitely think there's room for a thoughtful adaptation that digs a bit more into what exactly happened to the Krell, and maybe borrows a little more from the source material. If Morbius stands in for Prospero, is Robbie Caliban, with the conflicted master-slave relationship that implies? And who or what is Ariel?
 
J. Michael Straczynski was once tapped to do a Forbidden Planet movie, but that project vanished into the mists of obscurity:

"Straczynski’s script is reportedly a prequel: the story of what really happened with the Bellerophon, the first ship to reach home world of the mysterious Krell civilisation, with Dr. Edward Morbius on board.

Writing on X, J. Michael Straczynski commented “It’s maddening that right now, just sitting on a shelf at Warners, is a really solid screenplay for a Forbidden Planet movie, written by me, from a story by me and James Freaking Cameron. It’s production-ready, you can just drop it on the stage and shoot it.”"

See:

 
Not sure if I agree with the details here, but I definitely think there's room for a thoughtful adaptation that digs a bit more into what exactly happened to the Krell, and maybe borrows a little more from the source material. If Morbius stands in for Prospero, is Robbie Caliban, with the conflicted master-slave relationship that implies? And who or what is Ariel?
Ariel – a spirit in service to Prospero.
 

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They are currently filming a remake of the running man, but as the original film wasn’t all that faithful to the book and this remake is being directed by Edgar Wright it might be worth a look, especially if they make it more faithful to the book.
 
I surely hope not. I don't trust current year creators to handle the story with respect and care. I still get goosebumps. I get that strange and vague waking-up-from-a-nightmare feel with Forbidden Planet. Surprisingly quiet, deep. I am no sci fi film expert but it is the only classic sci fi film that gives me the same awe that Bradbury and some others gave me as a teenager. As a Christian for me it very strongly touches upon the fall of man, man's weaknesses and folly, but also the hope and love in the union of Adam and Eve. The last line after we witness in the obliteration of Altair 4 the fall of the lofty Krell and Morbius. It is profound if simple, as it should be.

"Your father's name will shine again like a beacon in the galaxy. It's true, it will remind us that we are, after all, not God."
 
Come to think of it, one remake was much better than the original.


It is a parody of the disaster film genre, particularly the 1957 Paramount film Zero Hour!, from which it borrows the plot, central characters, and some dialogue.

Surely you can't be serious. It's an all kind of different movie ; altogether !

"The life of everyone on board depends upon just one thing: finding someone back there who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner."

They barely modified that line from the original. The ZAZ (and Nielsen, and the whole cast) were geniuses.
 
What? No chance, after what they did to the remakes of Robocop and Total Recall. Hell will freeze over before I would go and see it.
 
Pinocchio evolution:mad:
 

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Surely you can't be serious. It's an all kind of different movie ; altogether !

"The life of everyone on board depends upon just one thing: finding someone back there who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner."

They barely modified that line from the original. The ZAZ (and Nielsen, and the whole cast) were geniuses.
The connection with Leslie Nielsen has me thinking about how Forbidden Planet might be remade...
 
I don't understand Hollywood's focus on remakes. Some movie story lines fit the time of production, not so much later.
Writers worry about AI taking their jobs - making remakes seems to have the same potential. Why have a high quality writing team when you can go back and do an old movie over again?
Maybe we should turn AI lose and let it come up with some new ideas (since it seems humans can't)!
 
Not sure if I agree with the details here, but I definitely think there's room for a thoughtful adaptation that digs a bit more into what exactly happened to the Krell, and maybe borrows a little more from the source material. If Morbius stands in for Prospero, is Robbie Caliban, with the conflicted master-slave relationship that implies? And who or what is Ariel?

I thought of Robbie as Ariel and the creature from the id as Caliban.
 
Why didn't we all write a good script to reverse the curse?

-I'll give you an idea: Robby contains in his memory all the information about the Krells that Morbius managed to decipher.
 

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Why didn't we all write a good script to reverse the curse?

-I'll give you an idea: Robby contains in his memory all the information about the Krells that Morbius managed to decipher.

Interesting idea and could be a lot of fun for this group. As far as hoping it would be produced, the problem with writing a good spec script is once Hollywood gets its hands on it, it will change. It will be curious to see what (if it ever gets done) the new producers come up with.

Good drawing of a Robby upgrade. I assume that internally, his 1956 small vacuum tubes, germanium transistors, Nixie tubes and neon display have been replaced by LEDs, multi-core CPUs, GPUs and TPUs (all as a SOC) as well as a 5 Tb SSD? For vision, the upgrade from videcon tubes to CMOS image sensor means much improved resolution. Unfortunately, due to the sensitivity of modern solid state electronics, any illegal orders that cause the display of electrical bolts will probably permanently disable it.

All kidding aside, one of the strengths of the original was not showing the Krell. As Morbius (Walter Pidgeon) points out, the only clue as to their form was the door shapes. For 2001, Kubrick tried a couple of ideas, but in the end couldn't come up with a throughly convincing alien. Plus he was way overdue on the date for release.
 
Interesting idea and could be a lot of fun for this group. As far as hoping it would be produced, the problem with writing a good spec script is once Hollywood gets its hands on it, it will change. It will be curious to see what (if it ever gets done) the new producers come up with.

Good drawing of a Robby upgrade. I assume that internally, his 1956 small vacuum tubes, germanium transistors, Nixie tubes and neon display have been replaced by LEDs, multi-core CPUs, GPUs and TPUs (all as a SOC) as well as a 5 Tb SSD? For vision, the upgrade from videcon tubes to CMOS image sensor means much improved resolution. Unfortunately, due to the sensitivity of modern solid state electronics, any illegal orders that cause the display of electrical bolts will probably permanently disable it.

All kidding aside, one of the strengths of the original was not showing the Krell. As Morbius (Walter Pidgeon) points out, the only clue as to their form was the door shapes. For 2001, Kubrick tried a couple of ideas, but in the end couldn't come up with a throughly convincing alien. Plus he was way overdue on the date for release.
I pitched the idea as a fun game between us, the concept of reversing the Hollywood curse is about creating nice, fun, and positive things out of the septic tank. If Hollywood tried to use any of this stuff, it would poison itself.

It should not be forgotten that the engineer of the C-57D recognizes that the technology used to build the robot is much more advanced than that of the builders of an interstellar ship.
 
I have a few questions for people interested in extraterrestrial biology:

How is it possible for a technological race to lack hands?

Would the civilized version of the Krells have hands?

Would the Krells have telekinetic capabilities that would allow them to manipulate objects without using hands?
 

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Good drawing of a Robby upgrade. I assume that internally, his 1956 small vacuum tubes, germanium transistors, Nixie tubes and neon display have been replaced by LEDs, multi-core CPUs, GPUs and TPUs (all as a SOC) as well as a 5 Tb SSD? For vision, the upgrade from videcon tubes to CMOS image sensor means much improved resolution.
I might borrow a little from Robocop 2 in terms of an Arnim Zola type deal.

The Action Lab (YouTube channel) has the world's first omnidirectional screen.

I might use that as a "stalk" for a head that consists of an early kind of hologram that used a spinning mirror--this to emulate the moving parts in the original Robby.

The lower cylinder simply has the images of the astronauts looking back at them.

The spinning disk is inside an outer glass enclosure as on the original Robby, to keep hands from being injured by the spinning disk.

Behind that, there is an array of protruding rods you see in science centers where you can put your hand up to them and it keeps the outline.
 
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How is it possible for a technological race to lack hands?

Would the civilized version of the Krells have hands?
Would the Krells have telekinetic capabilities that would allow them to manipulate objects without using hands?

Since technology is believed to evolve from tool making; it's very hard to visualize any technological race that couldn't have some means of external manipulation.

Looking at their immense machinery (photos) that filled a planet, the Krell seemed pretty "handy"!! :)

The telekinetic capacity of the Krell in Forbidden Planet was due to the neural boosting capacity of the machine that Morbius discovered. It was what brought down the civilization, as their minds could bring forth physical manifestations of jealousy and hate. This was the "Creature from the ID", drawing on then current (1950's) pop Freudian psychology. It would seem that they did not have this capability prior to the invention of the neural booster. Krell planet.jpg Untitled.jpg
 
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I have a few questions for people interested in extraterrestrial biology:

How is it possible for a technological race to lack hands?

Would the civilized version of the Krells have hands?

Would the Krells have telekinetic capabilities that would allow them to manipulate objects without using hands
This was not a Krell. This was a manifestation ("monsters of the id") created by Morbius' "boosted brain" and id, instantiated and empowered by the Krell technology.
 

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