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Helicoprion said:
At least in this instance, it looks like it was something that was totally unrelated. An infection that the guy had, pneumonia as well.
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Right.

Once is an accident.
Twice is a coincident. <----- We are here.
Three times is enemy action.
 
Could you step out of the cockpit sir

"What is that? An oxygen tank?"

Could you hold still, please, sir?
 
DOJ has submitted to a Texas Judge that they believe Boeing did violate its 2021 plea bargain by not improving MAX safety and quality inspections as they pledged to do. Boeing has until June 13 to submit defensive arguments and victim impact statements will be taken on May 31st. Once Boeing has submitted its defence a decision will be taken by whether to resume the deferred prosecution, extend the duration of the deferred prosecution or do nothing.

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What's next for Boeing after the US says it can be prosecuted?

The Department of Justice said that Boeing can be prosecuted for violating a 2021 criminal settlement over the certification of the 737 MAX.
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WatcherZero said:
DOJ has submitted to a Texas Judge that they believe Boeing did violate its 2021 plea bargain by not improving MAX safety and quality inspections as they pledged to do.
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The other aspect of this is that DOJ is reportedly consulting with the families of those killed in the Lion Air and Ethiopian crashes, and IIRC they were unhappy with the original settlement forced on them by DOJ through the deferred prosecution agreement. So it potentially opens up legal action from the families, not just DOJ.
 
TomcatViP said:
Great news but I don't quite understand how wrong data could be returned as a result of an overflow.
The server program should either send a false flag or accurate results.
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For a prior incident of overflow leading to disastrous results through a circuitous path, see Ariane Flight V88 and the loss of the first Ariane 5. A conversion (64 bit floating point to 16 bit signed integer) overflowed because the code was designed for Ariane 4 (and wasn't even needed on Ariane 5), ran for longer than designed for on Ariane 5, generating larger values than expected that then caused the overflow, that overflow threw an exception, both inertial units dropped out because of the exception, and the diagnostic message from one of them was executed as if it was a flight command....

And for an in-the-news example of servers causing catastrophic failures, see the Horizon/Post Office IT Scandal. (TLDR: Horizon was the bug-ridden Fujitsu software used by the UK Post Office for sales and accounting in local branches; amongst many other issues it could drop transaction messages, or parts of transaction messages, between the branch and the central accounting databases, leading to erroneous financial returns appearing to show money had gone missing, which the local sub-postmasters (branch owner/managers) were legally responsible for. Worse, the Post Office had the almost unique ability to privately prosecute them for theft, and swore blind in court evidence through 700 prosecutions spread across well over a decade that there was absolutely nothing wrong with Horizon. The sole reason the Post Office hasn't been bankrupted by their liability over Horizon is that they're government owned and the taxpayer has to cover it.)
 
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Departing Boeing CEO's board status faces Friday vote by shareholders

Boeing shareholders will vote on Friday whether outgoing CEO Dave Calhoun should remain on the board, adding intrigue to an annual general meeting where investors are expected to seek clarity on...
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- Boeing shares have plunged 30% this year.
- Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun has resigned amid scandals; the AGM is set to discuss leadership.
- Investors seek clarity on replacing the CEO at Boeing's upcoming AGM.
- Boeing faces a crisis - investigations, production slumps, and reputation damage are just the start.
 
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I was just googling to see when Boeing's 90 day deadline to respond to the FAA is up (May 28th) and came across this:

leehamnews.com

Boeing unlikely to meet FAA’s 90-day deadline for new safety program - Leeham News and Analysis

By Scott Hamilton April 18, 2024, © Leeham News: Boeing appears unlikely to meet a 90-day deadline to submit a comprehensive plan to address safety concerns, insiders tell LNA. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Feb. 28 gave... Read More
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TLDR: How can Boeing adequately respond to the FAA on its Safety Management System if halfway through the time allowed it hadn't engaged with the unions yet.

*Headdesk*
 
bobbymike said:
“and has a bachelor's degree in accounting from Southwest Missouri State University and a Master of Business Administration from Lindenwood University.”
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Again, she needs to think like a QA, not an MBA.


Arjen said:
If academical degrees are the thing to judge a person's suitability for a function in corporate governance, I would much prefer somebody with a degree in Business Administration than one with a degree in engineering. And no, I certainly don't want anyone with just an MBA tinkering on a nuclear reactor.

Everyone to their own trade.
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Boeing's decline basically started when the engineers stopped running the company.
 
Ouch shares down 7.6% in one day after investors warned of negative cash flow continuing into this quarter and the company dropped its advice from 2 months ago that the year would be overall cash flow positive (just). Shares are down 1/3rd this year, and it is getting worse rather than better with Boeing delivering just nine 737 MAX in April against the FAA production cap of 38 per month. Boeing has also paused deliveries of 737 MAX, 777 and 787 to China after Chinese regulators raised concerns about the new lithium battery in the cockpit voice recorder to enable the 25 hour recording capability and ordered a safety review despite the change being approved by EASA and the FAA. Boeing has 140 completed but undelivered MAX of which 85 are for Chinese customers.
 
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finance.yahoo.com

Boeing employees' safety, quality concerns surge dramatically in wake of incidents as deadline looms

Boeing released its annual safety report which showed a 500% increase in submissions to its safety and quality tip line as the aerospace giant prepares to submit a report to regulators.
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TLDR: Use of Boeing's safety reporting tool up 500% in 2024. It doesn't say whether the detailed reporting is similarly up.

I thought their response to the FAA's concerns was due today, but apparently it's the 30th. (Annoying, I'm off to the land of no internet tomorrow, so I'll have to wait to see the details).
 
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