Various Japanese projects of the 1920s and 1930s

[hesham]

That's very cool,specially your impressed drawings,many thanks my dear Blackkite.

 

[T-50]

That's very cool,specially your impressed drawings,many thanks my dear Blackkite.

Ill agree with you Blackkite San his drawings are super cool,and also his info about the paper projects!

 

[blackkite]

Not at all T-50 san.

 

[hesham]

OK my dear Blackkite,we will be waiting more.

 

[blackkite]

Amen. ;D

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Blackkite.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_VI

http://ki43.on.coocan.jp/injapan/heiki2/hino/hino.html

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
http://www.ijaafphotos.com/

 

[hesham]

From Flieger Revue Extra,


the Japanese marine aircraft,included some unknown designations.

 

[Stargazer]

First entry is a typo. The K-10 (second use of that designation) was the E15K1.

 

[blackkite]

Hi

Thanks Justo! I will try to translate Japanese explanation about E13K into English.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Good stuff!

 

[cluttonfred]

Wow, it's amazing what you can find sometimes. Great stuff, Wurger.

 

[blackkite]

Many thanks for such a surprising technical report. I understand that detection range of MAD is very short. At first radar detection or SONO-Buoy detection, then MAD detection. So to use MAD for nuclear submarine detection is very hard?

 

[Jemiba]

I seem to remember Rene Francillon mentioning both ASW radar and magnetic detectors in his wonderful Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific ...

Please see and enjoy:

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_documents/gvt_reports/USNAVY/USNTMJ%20Reports/USNTMJ-200B-0504-0540%20Report%20E-14.pdf

Many thanks for this eyeopener !
Japanesse WW II floatplanes were a special themé for me, when I still was building "models",
about 20 years ago /1/1250 scale). Wish, I would have had those sources then...

Would like to ask once more about the use of jettisonable floats, as it seems a feature only to be
found om Japanese aircraft, at least, I cannot remember of it elsewhere. In the case of the Seiran,
I think, that more or less it would have been to be used in every real mission. To use maximum
weapons load and especially maximum speed probably would have been desirable in all cases and
getting back the aircraft on board again after the sortie would have endangered the submarine
much more, than launching them (more time consuming in the face of a prewarned enemy).
But as a special attack weapon, loss of an aircraft would have been negligible.
Nevertheless, was a high performnace recce aircraft like the E15K Shiun regarded as a one-way-
weapon, too ?
I can only think of attempting to save vital recce results from getting lost, to justify such a step.
Or could the Shiun with its minimum weight (central float hettisoned, tanks almost empty) land on
the auxiliary floats in a reasonable manner and keep the engines and cockpit section (probably the
parts which were most damageable by a bath in the sea) more or less dry, maybe by a kind of
floating back in the tail ?

 

[blackkite]

I seem to remember Rene Francillon mentioning both ASW radar and magnetic detectors in his wonderful Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific ...

Please see and enjoy:

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_documents/gvt_reports/USNAVY/USNTMJ%20Reports/USNTMJ-200B-0504-0540%20Report%20E-14.pdf

Nevertheless, was a high performnace recce aircraft like the E15K Shiun regarded as a one-way-
weapon, too ?
I can only think of attempting to save vital recce results from getting lost, to justify such a step.
Or could the Shiun with its minimum weight (central float hettisoned, tanks almost empty) land on
the auxiliary floats in a reasonable manner and keep the engines and cockpit section (probably the
parts which were most damageable by a bath in the sea) more or less dry, maybe by a kind of
floating back in the tail ?

I can't find any information in Japanese sources about your sharp questions.

 

[Jemiba]

Thank you for your efforts nevertheless !
Besides saving the recce results, saving the crew of course certainly was another point !
That's often forgotten, I think, due to the intense use of suicide attacks. Nevertheless,
well trained air crews surely weren't something to throw away easily in wartime Japan, too.

 

[Stargazer]

Hi Sky! Vertical tail stabilizer shape of your post is different from this picture. Don't you think so?

Sure is. I have no explanation for that, unless perhaps they enlarged the tail later for the transport version.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! The IJN's experimental aircraft lists. Enjoy.
Source : The new and powerful aircraft of a phantom , Kojinsha, 12/11/1996, ISBN4-7698-2142-5

 

[Jemiba]

Do I get it right, that those tables show, for which specification the listed aircraft
were tendered ? Great !

 

[Stargazer]

Do I get it right, that those tables show, for which specification the listed aircraft
were tendered ? Great !

Yep. I made a more elaborate chart myself over the years, but I wish I'd found something like that at the beginning, it would have saved me a lot of effort!

 

[blackkite]

Thanks gentlemen for your appreciation. I will be a farmer for a while.

 

[gerhard]

Blackkite, your postings are always very good and interesting and exciting. Thank you.

 

[Winston]

I noticed there isn't much information on the Ki-120. Some speculation on Secret Projects is that it's the B-107 http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18479.msg177834/topicseen.html#msg177834
This book Japanese Experimental Transport Aircraft of the Pacific War by Giuseppe Picarella is supposed to mention the Ki-120, but I do not have a copy. Does anyone else? What does it say? See more about it here http://www.hyperscale.com/2012/reviews/books/mmjapanesetransportreviewrk_1.htm

 

[blackkite]

Ki-120 experimental transport. Not done(未着手).
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%A3%BD%E8%88%AA%E7%A9%BA%E6%A9%9F%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7

 

[Maveric]

No drawing? :'(

 

[athpilot]

No drawing? :'(

... I feel so too. Because my japanese is a little bit rusty ;D

 

[blackkite]

No drawing? :'(

I can't find even manufacturer. ;D

Ki-120 was a assault transport like C-123？
http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/fair_provider.php
The Japanese military were determining on the Japanese mainland ground battles in 1945. The Japanese military were inspiring Japan nation which is one hundred million general honorable death.

 

[hesham]

Hi! The final one. Long range fighter study. Enjoy.

My dear Blackkite,

for which company those Projects belonged ?.

 

[Stargazer]

17 pages in this topic... 43 pages in another, absolutely similar topic!
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,661.0

I'm closing these threads temporarily to do some heavy reorganizing work!