I know they tested a Buffalo. Not sure about the Dash-7
 
One of the X-5 derived fighter designs

From Messerschmitt Geheimprojekte
 

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Any details in the text about the armed X-5 ?
Thanks in advance..
 
Yes, see my post on the previous page where I summarized the various x-5 armed proposals
 
lark said:
Any details in the text about the armed X-5 ?
Thanks in advance..

My dear Lark,

here is a pages after and before.
 

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There is a little on the X-5 fighter study in Jay Miller's 'The X-Planes: X-1 to X-45'.
The blurb beneath the image sienar has posted mentions that the engine was a 5,200lb non-afterburning J35-A-17 and that later a 5,500lb developed J35 was proposed. Interestingly it mentions the proposed armament was 46x 2.1in German R4Ms with a Bell-modified AN/APS-19A radar for fire-control.
 
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There is a little on the X-5 fighter study in Jay Miller's 'The X-Planes: X-1 to X-45'.
The blurb beneath the image sienar has posted mentions that the engine was a 5,200lb non-afterburning J35-A-17 and that later a 5,500lb developed J35 was proposed. Interestingly it mentions the proposed armament was 46x 2.1in German R4Ms with a Bell-modified AN/APS-19A radar for fire-control.

I wonder if by modified radar they mean the proposed radar antenna/intake screen bell thought about for one of the earlier x-5 fighter derivatives.

I can't make out things in the drawing well enough to see if that is the case.
 

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In answer to one of Hesham's earlier questions in this thread, here's a pic of the D-306 full size mock up. Picture was taken from the https://gallery.vtol.org/image/1TS8 website. This project was the early version of what became the Model 222 (and eventually Airwolf lol!! ;D)
 

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Repost, Cutaway Bell Model 533 Helicopter developed by the Texas firm in 1962 based on an YUH-1B was extensively modified to set you two reactors J-60 derivatives Marbore, both had some inclination down and settled on the sides of the fuselage just in would be the area where the sliding door access to the cargo, its Plexiglas windshield verticals reinforcements showed two separate one for each section of it, on the same floor supports are put to install two large swept wings reduced rope elongation and with some degree of positive impact, its rotor mast fairing was widely repositioning inlets now more aerodynamic, like the rear fuselage which was given a fairing as "Teardrop" and laterally extensive, stands for skates are also expanding the rope carefully careened thereof, all this allowed to increase the maximum speed reaching up to 410 Km / h according to some sources, others emphasize that reached the record of 509 Km / h, had great capacity closed at speeds of 320 km / h turn, then another model was built with engines more separate reaction by short wings, the rotor pitch of 2 to four blades, the more sorprendenete is that using this set of bladed rotor almost unchanged achieve these benefits, that if at enormous cost in fuel consumption when operating the three power units, Author Aviagraphica and modified by Motocar to recreate in a free interpretation prototype.
 

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hesham said:
here is a gruop of Bell projects,and some of them were developed with Agusta.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19790017874_1979017874.pdf

Hi,

http://www.baurock.ru/phforum/index.php?showtopic=16617&st=80
 

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Bell proposal for QTR and FTR. Boeing-Bell's FTR concept is based on the X-22.
 

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The FTR proposal looks very interesting. Any more details on it?
 
This has a person's name on it (Major Al Huber). Huber worked for Army Aviation Center Directorate of Combat Development back around 2004 (per an article in Flight International).

He's also a contributing author to a book called "Air-Mech-Strike: Asymmetric Maneuver Warfare for the 21st Century" published around 2002. (One of the other co-authors is Mike Sparks, which don't encourage me as to its contents.) The book's description on Amazon mentions "ducted fan FTR concepts" so I'd guess this slide is an illustration from the book. So it's probably not actually a Bell concept, but something that Major Huber developed on his own.
 
Yes, it is from Air-Mech-Strike. This is probably an invention of his. It did say that the design was based on the Bell x-22A and may be best suited to the Theoretical category of SP.
 
Wow! That guy was ahead of the times. He proposed hybrid power dusted fans way back then.
 
From Le Fana 248,

it was a Bell Super X-2 with two boosters.
 

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Kingfish/archangel competitor? Doesn't match anything posted here; https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2795.msg22293.html#msg22293

from the Niagara Aerospace Museum
 

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Here is the Bell D-18 Project.

 

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From AW 1960,

I think we spoke about this before,but what was this drawing ?.
 

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From, Авиация и Космонавтика 2021-04.
 

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If I am not mistaken Bell did test the air cushion concept on a seconded DHC-7 from the Army in the early 70's.

They tested Bell's air cushion landing system on a DeHavilland of Canada 5 Buffalo.
They never installed an air cushion under a DHC Dash 7
Russia or Poland tested a similar air cushion on a PZL Airtruck predecessor.
 
Brilliant! Thank you for the wonderful information from the archives. Going to have to figure out how to access them as it seems much of Bells work has been put there.
This proposal is a perfect example of where the USAF Inc., would have gone all out to preclude the US Army from getting this platform, but would have no intention of getting it themselves. Meanwhile USMC would have continued to ignore USAF Inc., protestations and acquired the platform had the US Army invested in the initial effort.

I do realize this was a proposal to the USMC.
 
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The Bell D-261 AAFSS model is located at the Western Antique Aeroplane & Automobile Museum, 1600 Air Museum Road, Hood River, OR. It is part of the Ron Wilkins Helicopter Collection displayed there.
 

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