Under the Red Star

I'd like to ask how long time it takes to model something like this twin above ? 100 / 50 hours or more ?
 
Thanks Ronnie :)

And next model. This time Sukhoi fighter powered by two M-107 engine. It was modeled with using few drawings with Borovik's among them - so I would like to thank him for his help. But fuselage was based on crossection dated 1944. IMO it is most accurate drawing of this project with correct geometry of wing profile marked.

Plane had to be powered by two Klimov M-107 (VK-107) twelve cylinder piston engine placed one by one in fuselage. And it is a little bit strange detail there. According to 3 view drawings (also dated 1944) each engine have... 27 exhaust pipes (18 in two rows on top of fuselage and 9 on side), but I decided to use more standard solution with 12 exhaust pipes for engine (six on top and six on side).



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I saw a drawing of this machine once and thought it would make a fun 3D modelling subject. You've proven it! Looks awesome!
Landing gear looks a tad simplistic perhaps, but I shouldn't comment on this really as I always skip the landing gear myself, whenever I can! :-X
Great work Marek! Cool plane!

Bumpmap looks great by the way. I take it this plane was all-metal?
 
:) Yes, I used very simple gears cause... I really hate to model gears :D My idea is to show general look only - also interior is extremally simple. It was no more then project, so think, that it is not big sin ;)

Plane is from 1944 so it is all metal (probably ailerons and rudder were fabric covered so should have more bump here and there).

All models in this topic were modeled and rendered in Blender (using internal Cycles renderer with CUDA support).
 
Great indeed ! It really provokes a scene at Reno, just going round a pylon, with a handful
of Mustang and Bearcat racers well behind. Would need a flashing paint scheme then, of
course, maybe a big red star on the underside ? ;)
 
Jemiba said:
Great indeed ! It really provokes a scene at Reno, just going round a pylon, with a handful
of Mustang and Bearcat racers well behind. Would need a flashing paint scheme then, of
course, maybe a big red star on the underside ? ;)
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Reminds me of the Fisher P-75 Eagle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_P-75_Eagle ) aeroplane of the USAF.

I doubt that this twin engine was very practical...where is the fuel in it...in Reno you need a lot of fuel too since rpms are high. It could have been fast.

Prop also rotates wrong way to compete in Reno.
 
mrys said:
Thanks Ronnie :)

And next model. This time Sukhoi fighter powered by two M-107 engine.
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Another winner! I just love those early Sukhoi designs...
 
mrys said:
It was no more then project, so think, that it is not big sin
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True that, otherwise you have to "invent" detail, which is always wrong. At least that's my excuse when doing "what-ifs"! ;)

mrys said:
also interior is extremally simple
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But you did model an armoured glass panel, I believe? Nice touch and very appropriate with this style of windshield!
One thing most your fighter models lack is a gun sight though. I'm guilty of this myself in some cases! Easy to forget but would be nice to add! :D
 
it was and still it is the excellent model. TOP... I still hope I will bring to life Me-262 family from PovRay based on your excellent drawings and I will do some videos. But my last attempt ( CL-400 Suntan ) will eat near to 500 hours of rendering time for 30-50 sec of video
 
mrys said:
PlanesPictures said:
" I really hate to model gears" - and what undercarriage of your B-58?
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Brrrr.... I still have a nightmares with this gears :D
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That is the thing..all details take as much time to develope as does the entire concept..or even more. That is why a stealth concepts take 8 years and He-162 just 70 days.
 
Mrys congrats on another fantastic work. It's incredible how this prototypes came to "life" with your work.


A question about this one:

mrys said:
And next example of "Half-Jet" plane - S-2 VRDK by TsAGI.

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I follow the thread with informatio about this plane but I dont understand it very well. Which was the engine configuration on this plane? 2 reactors + 2 diesel engines?


Regards
Alcides
 
Piston engine AM-39 liquid-cooled (design by A.Mikulin , 1800 - HP, AM-39 was developed based on the AM-35A) served as driving the compressor.
 
borovik said:
Piston engine AM-39 liquid-cooled (design by A.Mikulin , 1800 - HP, AM-39 was developed based on the AM-35A) served as driving the compressor.
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So we have 2 jets engines + 1 engine compressor?
 
No. Each "engine unit" contains one piston engine and compressor, driven by this engine. It is sometimes called "motorjet". TsAGI S-1 depicted earlier had one those unit.

The same was in Campini-Caproni N-1 experimental jet plane.

@borovik: I was sure, that S-2 had two M-82 engines, not AM-39. Am I wrong?
 
@borovik: Thanks for info! could I ask you for sources of those informations? It is important for me, cause I will have to change my text for a book and improve model. In article published in Samoliety Mira magazine (by Nikolaj Valujev) "Polurieaktyvnyje istriebitieli TsAGI" and in the book "Ogniennyje krylia" by Eftifiev in part about S-1 and S-2 AM-39 is never mentioned but M-82 yes. To be honest also is never straight written that S-2 had M-82, but AM-39 is mentioned much later in part about other TsAGI mixed fighter project.

IMO I think, that engine nacelles were a little bit too short (about 5 - 5,3 m) to fit 2,4 m long engine, compressor and combustion chamber. M-82 would be much more friendly. But of course I can be wrong.


And next model. This time something more conventional. Sukhoi's fighter with M-71 engine, dated 1942. "Pocket" version of Thunderbolt :)


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Wow. Splendid work!

Sure had a Seversky-Republic feel to it, agreed!
 
The primary source of all the publications of the TsAGI VRDK the same: Nikolai
Valuev / "Airplanes of the world" 1995 # 2, p.26-32.
My answer was Hasty categorical because of the information on page 30 (see attached files in a PM), the description of the use of the AM-39F engine is right after the description of the
S-1 VRDK-1. (though this information can be interpreted in favor of the S-2 VRDK-1 and to the unnamed loitering fighter )
Present your overall calculations favor the radial (star) of the piston engine.
Impressed so much of your images!
 
Just finished Sukhoi's high altitude fighter with M-90 engine and two TK-1 superchargers. Designed about 1940/1941 as study project during Su-1/Su-3 (I-135, I-330) program. Plane had to be able to reach ceiling about 13250 m (12500 m by calculations NII WWS specialists) and speed 670-690 km/h at 10000 m.



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Another winner... I'm just so totally incapable of doing what you're doing that I'm envious of your talent! ;)
 
Marek happens to be one the most talented in this field. Seen his LUFT46 renderings...second to none.
 
After some research and thanks to Borovik, who forced me to read article in Mir Aviatsyi carefully once again ;) I had to improve my model of TsAGI S-1WRDK experimental fighter with mixed power unit. First version in post #76 had exhaust pipes of ASh-82 engine on sides of fuselage (a little bit similar to La-5). In fact plane had to have internal exhaust pipes, and hot exhaust gases had to be used for initial warming air, that flew through air duct to combustion chamber. It should give a small additional boost (no more then 1-2 kN IMO) but also maybe lower fuel consumption and increased time of been in air.
By the way I also changed and added some details and shaders. Also cammo is a little bit more colorful now :)

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Stargazer2006 said:
Another winner... I'm just so totally incapable of doing what you're doing that I'm envious of your talent!
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Well that makes two of us as I have no clue how Marek cranks them out so fast!!! :eek:
Fantastic work!
 
One of my personal favorites (both the type AND the artwork). Well done!
 
mrys said:
Secret is not loosing time for sleeping, eating and facebook ;)
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Facebook of course!!! , spleep ... maybe I can spare some hour but eating!!! No, no, I'm proud of my 120 kg ;)


Brilliant work Mrys, really looks very modern.
 
Thanks :)
BTW I found interesting information about this project. There are two very similar planes, signed as BiCH-24 and this one BiCH-26. First one exist as wind tunnel model. Both are so similar, that I think that maybe it is the same project. I found info, that BiCH-26 is signed also as Che-24 (not Che-26!). It vould be explanation of similarity between Cheranovski's projects with number 24 and 26. But I don't know if it is true - in most sources BiCH-26 is also signed as Che-26 and BiCH-24 is other project.


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I've never seen this before. Thanks :) Reminds me a bit of the Ford.
 
These are fantastic! ;D

Where do you get the textures for the aircraft? I've modeled aircraft before but texturing is always a pain, how do you do it?
 
hs121trident said:
Where do you get the textures for the aircraft? I've modeled aircraft before but texturing is always a pain, how do you do it?
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It's not me, it's photoshop ;) :D

New one. Heavy bomber Kalinin K-17 from 1936. BTW anyone can help with two engined version? Can't find any image.

 
Did you mean K-12?

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