AeroFranz said:hmmm...maybe that position provides the greatest separation between engine intake and probe during possible fuel sprays during disconnection? not sure...
Bill S said:One more, then I had better stop before this becomes the V-416 thread
Although the NAGPAW program was accepted by the Navy's' BuAer as a proprietary concept, Chance Vought learned of North American's effort and also submitted an unsolicited proposal just two months prior to the award date. Ironically, (or coincidentally?) Vought had picked the name Vigilante [sic] for their proposed aircraft.
overscan said:Just to muddy the waters a little:
Although the NAGPAW program was accepted by the Navy's' BuAer as a proprietary concept, Chance Vought learned of North American's effort and also submitted an unsolicited proposal just two months prior to the award date. Ironically, (or coincidentally?) Vought had picked the name Vigilante [sic] for their proposed aircraft.
Source:
Aerofax A-5 Vigilante by Michael Grove and Jay Miller
overscan said:Bell - V/STOL design (no further info)
Stargazer2006 said:No, hesham, that's the Lockheed CL-364, as the caption implies.
XB-70 Guy said:I never heard of a RAY WINDER missile before.
overscan said:XB-70 Guy said:I never heard of a RAY WINDER missile before.
Ray Winder was a passive radar homing Sidewinder from 1957, put together by John Boyles and Tom Amlie at NOTS. It generated little interest as Russian fighters generally did not use radar at the time.
Pioneer said:Possibly more chances than one may think!
After all the Buccaneer was designed and developed with the financial assistance of the U.S Governments Military Assistance Program (MAP)!
Also I have read that the U.S Navy officials often and freely visited the Hawker Siddeley facilities to inspect the progress of the Buccaneer development - with it being stated in some circles that HS's progress and innovation to particular problem were taken back to Grumman, who was at the time developing the A-6 Intruder!
It was said that the US Navy officials liked what they sore!!
CaseyKnight said:Pioneer said:Possibly more chances than one may think!
After all the Buccaneer was designed and developed with the financial assistance of the U.S Governments Military Assistance Program (MAP)!
Also I have read that the U.S Navy officials often and freely visited the Hawker Siddeley facilities to inspect the progress of the Buccaneer development - with it being stated in some circles that HS's progress and innovation to particular problem were taken back to Grumman, who was at the time developing the A-6 Intruder!
It was said that the US Navy officials liked what they sore!!
Why didn't the Navy give the info to the other contractors?
nugo said:Bell Model 2001 (a.k.a. D-2001)---Navy Attack Airplane, maybe competitor of the TS-149 specification.
hesham said:My dear Tailspin,
do you know the proposals from Bell and North American ?.
fightingirish said:Hhmm, the Lockheed CL-364 (post#54 by hesham) and the NAA TS-149 "Vigilante" /57H-424 look very alike.
Bill S said:V-416A&B Major Components Drawing VAHF Archives
PaulMM (Overscan) said:From Tony Buttler's American Secret Projects: Bombers, Attack Aircraft and ASW
Bell - V/STOL design (no further info)
Boeing 806-1A single engine, top inlet, supersonic design (3 view, description)
Boeing 807 - turboprop submission. (No further info)
Douglas 715 - as described above. (2 model photos, 3 view, description)
Douglas 725 - A4D-3 Skyhawk with new nose and modified cockpit (3 view, artwork, description)
Grumman G-128 (built as the A2F/A-6 Intruder)
Lockheed CL-364-2 (3 view, description)
Martin 345, 346 (no further info)
North American (no further info)
Vought V-416/A/B/C (3 views, artworks, descriptions)
PaulMM (Overscan) said:Just to muddy the waters a little:
Although the NAGPAW program was accepted by the Navy's' BuAer as a proprietary concept, Chance Vought learned of North American's effort and also submitted an unsolicited proposal just two months prior to the award date. Ironically, (or coincidentally?) Vought had picked the name Vigilante [sic] for their proposed aircraft.
Source:
Aerofax A-5 Vigilante by Michael Grove and Jay Miller
PaulMM (Overscan) said:Douglas D-725 was a lightly modified A-4 submitted to TS-149
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/Douglas_Model_725_SAC_-_15_August_1957.pdf
PaulMM (Overscan) said:Douglas D-725 was a lightly modified A-4 submitted to TS-149