The APKWS is now capable of shooting down drones

[Scott Kenny]

Could it down an attack helo? There's an interesting use.

Probably. The standard HE warhead is 17lbs.

 

[Scott Kenny]

It's still quite useful & cheap addition; basically as long as target required less than 8 AGR-20, it's more mass-efficient than a "proper" AAM.

And IIRC the total AGR-20 is less than 125k, it's cheaper to fire 8x AGR-20s as more or less any modern cruise missile than the target missile costs!

 

[Forest Green]

And IIRC the total AGR-20 is less than 125k, it's cheaper to fire 8x AGR-20s as more or less any modern cruise missile than the target missile costs!

It's about $20k for the basic version and $40k with IIR. If you mounted 1 or 2 on drones and started downing Ka-52s that would be real expensive for the other guy.

 

[NMaude]

It's about $20k for the basic version and $40k with IIR. If you mounted 1 or 2 on drones and started downing Ka-52s that would be real expensive for the other guy.

Even at $40K it's still significantly cheaper than a Sidewinder, as for a Hokum B, yeah, blowing one of those out of the sky would be highly cost effective.

 

[Scott Kenny]

It's about $20k for the basic version and $40k with IIR. If you mounted 1 or 2 on drones and started downing Ka-52s that would be real expensive for the other guy.

I thought that was just seeker price, so gotta add rocket and warhead and fuze costs.

 

[joshjosh]

I thought that was just seeker price, so gotta add rocket and warhead and fuze costs.

thats about... $1200 for the rocket motor

 

[Scott Kenny]

thats about... $1200 for the rocket motor

Okay, so let's just round up to $10k for warhead and fuze and rocket. So the SAL APKWS is ~$30k/ea and the IIR APKWS is ~$50k/ea

 

[NMaude]

the IIR APKWS is ~$50k/ea

How does that compare price wise with the FIM-92 Stinger?

 

[Josh_TN]

I thought that was just seeker price, so gotta add rocket and warhead and fuze costs.

That’s only like $3,000, plus there’s a million already in inventory. The rocket is effectively free.

 

[joshjosh]

That’s only like $3,000, plus there’s a million already in inventory. The rocket is effectively free.

millions of rockets in inventory, and still being produced.

 

[Josh_TN]

How does that compare price wise with the FIM-92 Stinger?

I think $100,000-200,000. Kinda depends on order size; price fluctuates.

 

[Scott Kenny]

That’s only like $3,000, plus there’s a million already in inventory. The rocket is effectively free.

Okay, so more like 25k/45k.

Which makes the exchange rate versus Stingers even more lopsided, call it 4x APKWS per Stinger.

And the exchange rate versus Ka-50s just absurd.

 

[Maro.Kyo]

BAE Systems Unveils New APKWS Precision Guided Rocket At Sea Air Space 2025 - Naval News

The new dual-mode APKWS guidance kit will allow for faster fire rates and a pseudo fire-and-forget capability for counter-UAS

www.navalnews.com

Newest APKWS model based on FALCO. Dual-mode SAL/IIR with better IR sensor better suited for C-UAS (and probably other things, too)

 

[Forest Green]

BAE Systems Unveils New APKWS Precision Guided Rocket At Sea Air Space 2025 - Naval News

The new dual-mode APKWS guidance kit will allow for faster fire rates and a pseudo fire-and-forget capability for counter-UAS

www.navalnews.com

Newest APKWS model based on FALCO. Dual-mode SAL/IIR with better IR sensor better suited for C-UAS (and probably other things, too)

Infrared Seeker For APKWS Guided 70mm Rockets Unveiled

Adding infrared guidance to APKWS II rockets allows for multiple targets to be engaged more rapidly, especially in the air-to-air role.

www.twz.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1902332718215577795

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