The APKWS is now capable of shooting down drones

[Scott Kenny]

Could it down an attack helo? There's an interesting use.

Probably. The standard HE warhead is 17lbs.

 

[Scott Kenny]

It's still quite useful & cheap addition; basically as long as target required less than 8 AGR-20, it's more mass-efficient than a "proper" AAM.

And IIRC the total AGR-20 is less than 125k, it's cheaper to fire 8x AGR-20s as more or less any modern cruise missile than the target missile costs!

 

[Forest Green]

And IIRC the total AGR-20 is less than 125k, it's cheaper to fire 8x AGR-20s as more or less any modern cruise missile than the target missile costs!

It's about $20k for the basic version and $40k with IIR. If you mounted 1 or 2 on drones and started downing Ka-52s that would be real expensive for the other guy.

 

[NMaude]

It's about $20k for the basic version and $40k with IIR. If you mounted 1 or 2 on drones and started downing Ka-52s that would be real expensive for the other guy.

Even at $40K it's still significantly cheaper than a Sidewinder, as for a Hokum B, yeah, blowing one of those out of the sky would be highly cost effective.

 

[Scott Kenny]

It's about $20k for the basic version and $40k with IIR. If you mounted 1 or 2 on drones and started downing Ka-52s that would be real expensive for the other guy.

I thought that was just seeker price, so gotta add rocket and warhead and fuze costs.

 

[joshjosh]

I thought that was just seeker price, so gotta add rocket and warhead and fuze costs.

thats about... $1200 for the rocket motor

 

[Scott Kenny]

thats about... $1200 for the rocket motor

Okay, so let's just round up to $10k for warhead and fuze and rocket. So the SAL APKWS is ~$30k/ea and the IIR APKWS is ~$50k/ea

 

[NMaude]

the IIR APKWS is ~$50k/ea

How does that compare price wise with the FIM-92 Stinger?

 

[Josh_TN]

I thought that was just seeker price, so gotta add rocket and warhead and fuze costs.

That’s only like $3,000, plus there’s a million already in inventory. The rocket is effectively free.

 

[joshjosh]

That’s only like $3,000, plus there’s a million already in inventory. The rocket is effectively free.

millions of rockets in inventory, and still being produced.

 

[Josh_TN]

How does that compare price wise with the FIM-92 Stinger?

I think $100,000-200,000. Kinda depends on order size; price fluctuates.

 

[Scott Kenny]

That’s only like $3,000, plus there’s a million already in inventory. The rocket is effectively free.

Okay, so more like 25k/45k.

Which makes the exchange rate versus Stingers even more lopsided, call it 4x APKWS per Stinger.

And the exchange rate versus Ka-50s just absurd.