Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik UAV

[stealthflanker]

And Su-27 with T-10 designation? Doesn't have a Delta Wing.

that T means "Trapezoid" Not necessarily Delta Wing.

 

[Acatomic]

A OK, was under wrong impression that letter S meant that aircraft was experimental (S-37). Thanks.

 

[Acatomic]

I think there is a high probability that Su-57's AESA N036B radar is Okhotnik's main radar, it's size and shape looks like it would fit. @paralay can you confirm?

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/sukhoi-su-57-t-50-pak-fa-flight-testing-and-development-part-ii.15626/post-445127

 

[paralay]

May be

 

[Acatomic]

Ah, it's so close.

 

[Grey Havoc]

Could be a scaled down derivative. A drone that is (in theory at least) expendable likely wouldn't need the expensive full radar system.

 

[Acatomic]

Maybe a slightly trimmed down version? It would probably function just like the original just be more compact.

Like this:

 

[tequilashooter]

Might as well get a photonic radar since the antennas look as thin as paper according to what they have shown and said.

 

[Scar]

Might as well get a photonic radar since the antennas look as thin as paper according to what they have shown and said.

Please, can you show a picture of this photonic radar? Thank you.

 

[tequilashooter]

Might as well get a photonic radar since the antennas look as thin as paper according to what they have shown and said.

Please, can you show a picture of this photonic radar? Thank you.

You mean like the antennas of the ROFAR image you have shown me in the photonic integrated circuit thread? Edit: apologies that was saber that showed me.

 

[stealthflanker]

Looking forward for the Su-57's pilot interface for controlling S-70's.

 

[tequilashooter]

S-70's «EVOSAR» (Virtus) SAR radar for ground and air surveillance.

Do you have the source of where that equipment is from, or which sized drones they are talking about?



Here is some old information to explore radar options for the Su-70

2015 source https://www.niip.ru/upload/iblock/4c8/4c89c11ae741be234a5f900b3fb41e86.pdf

"The first platform for our latest radar will most likely be an advanced Russian-built unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). We believe the radar designed for a heavy UAV will be able to scan airspace with the 200-km radius."

2018 source https://tass.com/defense/1012445

"As the press office said, RTI Group is completing R&D work in 2018 on creating a mockup of the X-band radio-photonic radar. Following its results, specialists "will determine a principal scheme of building the radio-photonic locator," which will make it possible "in several years to build prototypes of super-light and small-size radars for unmanned aerial vehicles."

Don't know if 2 sources above would ever apply because the Su-70 is listed as a super heavy drone but I think that is some decent information regarding where they are at in apply radars for drones and technology based on it.

@Scar

Here is the picture you wanted.

Разработанная в рамках проекта ФПИ антенна вошла в Топ-10 изобретений 2020 года

Разработанная в рамках проекта Фонда перспективных исследований антенна малой высоты профиля, способная работать с широкой полосой частот, вошла в Топ-10 лучших изобретений 2020 года по версии Роспатента.

fpi.gov.ru

"The technology allows you to create antennas and antenna grilles, which can be made in the form of active cladding of various carriers with a thickness slightly more than the thickness of paint coating.
The main executor of the project is Vega Concern, the parent company of the reconnaissance information systems division of Roselectronica Holding Company Rostec, which specializes in the development and production of an extensive range of modern electronic products and military and civilian
systems"

 

[paralay]

Perhaps the S-70 Okhotnik radar is also installed by the LMFS

 

[Geo]

Perhaps the S-70 Okhotnik radar is also installed by the LMFS

View attachment 653345

It's OAK's PLIB.

LMFS was intended as a multirole agile fighter with Zhuk-AM radar.

 

[tequilashooter]

Perhaps the S-70 Okhotnik radar is also installed by the LMFS

View attachment 653345

I wish I was as happy as a X-32 or LMFS.

 

[QuadroFX]

It's OAK's PLIB.

What is PLIB ?

 

[Geo]

It's OAK's PLIB.

What is PLIB ?

Перспективный легкий истребитель-бомбардировщик.

Future Light Strike Fighter.

 

[paralay]

Any other details of the project?

 

[Geo]

Any other details of the project?

It's private project of OAK. Probably single engine (izd. 30)...

Газогенератор двигателя изд. 30 базовый для семейства двигателей самолётов ФА - PDF Скачать Бесплатно

Заместитель генерального директора - руководитель приоритетного технологического направления "Технологии двигателестроения», директор филиала «НИИД» АО «НПЦ газотурбостроения «Салют», доктор технических

docplayer.ru

...and high degree of unification w T-50/Su-57 (look sharply at canopy on the model).

 

[kaiserbill]

Interesting attachment.
Not being a Russian speaker, what is being shown in that engine/combat aircraft slide?
I recognise the Su-57 and MiG-31.
What are the other designs and engines?

 

[Scar]

Interesting attachment.
Not being a Russian speaker, what is being shown in that engine/combat aircraft slide?
I recognise the Su-57 and MiG-31.
What are the other designs and engines?

Starting from the top(12 o'clock) and going clockwise, these are:

PAK FA/Su-57
Prospective CAS AC...the image used as a placeholder was taken from Arma 3 PC game))
PAK DP prospective fighter-interceptor...BTW, it's a MiG-25, not MiG-31, used as a placeholder
Twin-engine version on LFI light fighter...dunno where this pic came from
Single engine version of LFI light fighter...dunno where this pic came from
6th Gen. fighter...LM's 6th gen concept-art used as a placeholder))

 

[kaiserbill]

Thanks Scar

 

[Scar]

Might as well get a photonic radar since the antennas look as thin as paper according to what they have shown and said.

Please, can you show a picture of this photonic radar? Thank you.

You mean like the antennas of the ROFAR image you have shown me in the photonic integrated circuit thread? Edit: apologies that was saber that showed me.

Please, can you share the link to this thread? Thank you.

 

[tequilashooter]

Might as well get a photonic radar since the antennas look as thin as paper according to what they have shown and said.

Please, can you show a picture of this photonic radar? Thank you.

You mean like the antennas of the ROFAR image you have shown me in the photonic integrated circuit thread? Edit: apologies that was saber that showed me.

Please, can you share the link to this thread? Thank you.

https://fpi.gov.ru/press/news/razra...ntenna-voshla-v-top-10-izobreteniy-2020-goda/ check my edit later , I got your username confused with Saber.

If very low RCS estimates are believed, than with the same rules applied to the drone with the usage of this technology, than it raises possibilities this drone can be very dangerous in air to air combat.

 

[LMFS]

It's OAK's PLIB.

LMFS was intended as a multirole agile fighter with Zhuk-AM radar.

Many thanks for the UEC link Geo, that is a good one!

Any chance this is the plane Rostec is planning to present at MAKS 21? They just said they will be presenting an all new plane at that venue, not clear whether civilian or military, but this one would be among the ones that would make sense to show there, because of its relevance as export product

 

[Geo]

It's OAK's PLIB.

LMFS was intended as a multirole agile fighter with Zhuk-AM radar.

Many thanks for the UEC link Geo, that is a good one!

Any chance this is the plane Rostec is planning to present at MAKS 21? They just said they will be presenting an all new plane at that venue, not clear whether civilian or military, but this one would be among the ones that would make sense to show there, because of its relevance as export product

Well, MAY BE. You think this one, right?:

«Ростех» покажет «принципиально новый» самолет на МАКС-2021

iz.ru

What coud mean "principially new"? Could it be optionally manned?

Ростех прорабатывает концепцию перспективного однодвигательного боевого самолета

Его могут создать в пилотируемом и беспилотном вариантах, отметил глава госкорпорации Сергей Чемезов

www.google.com

 

[Acatomic]

Nah, it's just Yak-40 with superconducting electric motor (which is still a great achievement).

На МАКС-2021 покажут первый в мире электросамолет

На МАКС-2021 покажут первый в мире самолет с электродвигателем, рассказал журналистам вице-премьер Юрий Борисов. РИА Новости, 24.03.2021

ria.ru

 

[tequilashooter]

"Охотник" и Су-57 смогут взаимодействовать в сетецентрических войнах

Тяжелый ударный беспилотник "Охотник" будет поражать цели в рамках сетецентрического взаимодействия с истребителем пятого поколения Су-57. Концепции могут быть разными в зависимости от условий и задач

z5h64q92x9.net

"The Okhotnik heavy strike drone will hit targets as part of a network-centric interaction with the fifth-generation su-57 fighter. The concepts may vary depending on the conditions and tasks of the operation.

This is reported by TASS with reference to the United aircraft Corporation (part of rostec). The interaction will concern ground and air targets. Command will be assigned to the lead manned vehicle as part of network-centric interaction. Drones will be able to solve a full range of tasks.

The network-centric military doctrine is focused on combining information sources, control bodies, and weapons of destruction into a single network, which increases combat power and informs all participants in the operation in real time.

Recall that the S-70 Okhotnik heavy strike unmanned aerial vehicle was developed at the Sukhoi design Bureau. It will be able to extend the range of the su-57 radar and open targets for the fighter pilot, if necessary, hitting them. It is characterized by stealth, has a turbojet engine and can fly at subsonic speed."

 

[Grey Havoc]

Network-centric warfare is one of those ideas that just won't die.

 

[Acatomic]

I can't wait for the Victory parade in 2025. Imagine a single Su-57 flying together with a pair or more of S-70 over the Red Square. What a sight that will be .

 

[Acatomic]

Network-centric warfare is one of those ideas that just won't die.

What's wrong with network centric warfare? Isn't that the basis of F-35?

 

[Grey Havoc]

Exactly.

 

[Acatomic]

Okay I get it

 

[QuadroFX]

Slightly expanded video about S-70 from Russia24 tv-channel:

View: https://youtu.be/CMq6pJdZNV0


source file https://disk.yandex.ru/i/JZVlMrzerv99bw

 

[tequilashooter]

IRST?

 

[Grey Havoc]

Looks more like a recessed fuel probe?

 

[Acatomic]

I don't know if it's IRST per se, but it is a EO system.

Here is being tested on T50-3:

 

[tequilashooter]

Extending the su-57s radar range and using what's on the t-50-3. They are serious about the air to air role of the drone. I guess there is no need for the su-70 to go ranges beyond short range missiles. Since it seems that one Russian article pulled a US on us with their orders of magnitude RCS estimates of the pakda, might suggest when aircrafts see this one because of its smaller size than pakda, it will be able to use those short range missiles

Just wanted to crack that joke above(hope more than half the forum doesn't feel mocked) by over exaggerating the drones capabilities. But oh boy I never felt this excited about their upcoming airshow.

 

[flateric]

Apparently this is a 57 mm cannon ...

 

[Anduriel]

Apparently this is a 57 mm cannon ...

Forward looking camera most likely. Look at the photos with Fedotow and screen image at 4:19. From the postition you can guess that camera is placed low and off-center to the right.