To be fair Star Wars has never got too into explaining the tech in the way Star Trek does. I like that but the cruiser hyperdrive kill was just lazy, as was most of that plot. Indeed, arguably what I disliked about TLJ and ROS was perhaps a more Trek style reliance on tech.
i guess perhaps they just aren’t that good films - it’s the idea and the Universe they created that gets the interest. Arguably Game of Thrones succeeded similarly because it created an incredible world - did something new (killing key characters and genuinely surprising twists) as Star Wars did with its tempo.
After-all you watch 2001, a long film and man is it slow. Some black things, a guy goes to the moon, there is a spaceship, a real time battle between AI and a spaceman, and then a dream (aka LSD!). 2hrs 44mins - for what, 5 things?
I’d be typing all night trying to summarise A New Hope!
Hi pourpletrouble,
wow dude - you *really* thought the last part of 2001 was an acid dream rather than the depiction of an actual transformational occurrence? I guess you really don't know anything about Stanley Kubrick, do you, bro? The absolutely fundamental, decisive difference between 2001 on one side and droning on popcorn sci-fi space opera serials or even standalone films in any way, shape, or form like any incarnations of Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, Outland, Enemy Mine, Avatar, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Expanse, Firefly ,or Solaris (both the original and the remake), i.e. *any* other "franchise" or "standalone masterpiece" is that, just like the Black Obelisk at it's very core, 2001 IS NOT INTENDED to be a riveting narrative, but a stand alone contemplation of life, the universe, and everything. The point is not *action* but *introspection*. I can understand though if you were unimpressed by 2010. So don't worry ,grasshopper, you will learn to hop someday
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Best wishes,
Martin
??? Aside from your daft and offensive tone, you clearly haven’t read the thread where I make my admiration for 2001 clear, indeed watching it with a live orchestra playing the scote and Kubriks wife giving an intro was probably the most impactful film I’ve ever seen.
2001 is awesome, but ponderous. The last section confuses the hell out of everybody.Please don’t for a second try and claim that section was and is not very ”druggy” in interpretation, and even how people actually watched it!
Star Wars is not slow and doesn’t - as I said before, it is cinema as entertainment/escapism at it’s best. It created a universe with a feel and depth to it, only Star Trek has done the same and the rest of what you mentioned never got close.
I get the impression you think it should be art and anything less that that, or that which people like, is to be demeaned. Perhaps one day you will get over this, but, as the line cinema cemented in our minds, not today.
