StandOff & PGM Weapons

[bring_it_on]

Right. Platforms like The Spice "family" from Israel are pretty close in their capabilities to Stormbreakers as are JSOWs, it's just that they're usually not employed as extensively as the cheaper JDAMs or Laser Guided variants owing to cost. I think.

There are several glide bombs that feature IIR, MMW or GPS/INS guided weapons. Stormbreaker features all of these into a single networked weapon. SDB-1 exists as a cheaper option in that class of weapon if the unique capabilities ( dual band data-link for networking, Tri mode seeker for all-weather performance against moving target in a GPS contested enviornment) is not required. They've added HOJ and other seekers to SDB-1 as well so those are likely cheaper options in the same class..and Israel has an analog with IIR seeker in its spice family. All those lower cost options exist to complement the Stormbreaker.

 

[tyrin]

Umbani from Denel has a new evolution with pretty decent range

 

[tyrin]

And the wing kit for the MK 84 as well from EDGE group

 

[tyrin]

Not sure the point of this honestly, like a shitty hellfire?

 

[tyrin]

Of note is the Saber cruise missile on the Mirage-2000 looking display. Looks just like a Storm Shadow, was there reverse engineering done or maybe convergent design?

Also in the back left is the MK84 guidance kit

 

[tyrin]

Not sure the point of this honestly, like a shitty hellfire?

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IDEX 2025 - Halcon unveils new guided missiles projects - EDR Magazine

Part of the Missiles and Weapons Cluster, one of divisions that form the EDGE group, Halcon is the guided missile

www.edrmagazine.eu

“The G120, the second new system seen at the Halcon stand, which was part of the huge exhibition area occupied by the EDGE group, is still in the concept development phase. “This weapon is air launched and will have an 8 km range. It will also have a tandem warhead and a laser seeker, and it is being developed by a team of engineers in Halcon,”


Looking ahead, which might be emerging technologies that might impact Halcon and EDGE guided weapons in the wider sense? “I think one of the main issues today is to be robust against GNSS denial, so visual based navigation as well as AI will become essential. We must have a leading edge on our competitors, with low cost solutions that are extremely do robust and does not rely on any GNSS solution. And we’re pursuing that,” he underlined. “Sensor fusion will be key, having multiple sensors on the weapon, exploiting GNSS signal when available, implementing of course sophisticated anti jamming and anti spoofing solution, but visual based navigation will become essential, coupled with AI.

 

[TomS]

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Of note is the Saber cruise missile on the Mirage-2000 looking display. Looks just like a Storm Shadow, was there reverse engineering done or maybe convergent design?

Also in the back left is the MK84 guidance kit

I see a bunch of detail differences. The Saber has more of a hexagonal cross section, while Storm Shadow has a trapezoidal shape. Saber's inlet has a small gap from then fuselage and seems to have a point in the middle, while Storm Shadow does not. Tail fins are very different.

Signs point to Saber just being similar through similar requirements.





Worth noting that Saber has changed quite a bit since it was first seen, in 2021.

 

[tyrin]

I see a bunch of detail differences. The Saber has more of a hexagonal cross section, while Storm Shadow has a trapezoidal shape. Saber's inlet has a small gap from then fuselage and seems to have a point in the middle, while Storm Shadow does not. Tail fins are very different.

Signs point to Saber just being similar through similar requirements.

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Worth noting that Saber has changed quite a bit since it was first seen, in 2021.

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Thank you for the analysis I was leaning towards the same theory as you. Many Denel engineers involved worked on cruise missiles at some point in their careers and likely brought that experience over.