SpaceX (general discussion)

[Richard N]

A "Starship" has flown!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lwH7xJnB4I

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1336441479745638401

View: https://twitter.com/spacex360/status/1336441479745638401

 

[Flyaway]

Was an auto abort and will be looking at the backup dates of the 9th & 10th December.

 

[Flyaway]

New NSF live feed:

View: https://youtu.be/D8bZkTjEnXw

 

[Deino]

New NSF live feed:

View: https://youtu.be/D8bZkTjEnXw

Any idea WHEN??

 

[TomS]

New NSF live feed:

View: https://youtu.be/D8bZkTjEnXw

Any idea WHEN??

The SpaceX live stream says T-3 minutes

 

[TomS]

And it aborted again at the same place: T-1.3 seconds.

Edit: the Raptors don't seem to be very happy with something about this test.

Edit 2: and that's it for today.

 

[sferrin]

And it aborted again at the same place: T-1.3 seconds.

Edit: the Raptors don't seem to be very happy with something about this test.

Edit 2: and that's it for today.

I think you got something mixed up. They haven't even done anything yet today.

 

[TomS]

And it aborted again at the same place: T-1.3 seconds.

Edit: the Raptors don't seem to be very happy with something about this test.

Edit 2: and that's it for today.

I think you got something mixed up. They haven't even done anything yet today.

OK, the YouTube app on my TV is officially useless. It showed me what it claimed was a livestream but was obviously a rerun of yesterday. Sorry, all.

 

[sferrin]

And it aborted again at the same place: T-1.3 seconds.

Edit: the Raptors don't seem to be very happy with something about this test.

Edit 2: and that's it for today.

I think you got something mixed up. They haven't even done anything yet today.

OK, the YouTube app on my TV is officially useless. It showed me what it claimed was a livestream but was obviously a rerun of yesterday. Sorry, all.

I've noticed some channels will steal other channel's content and rerun them as "live".

Probably the best spot to keep tabs:

Starship SN8 Test Launch Campaign - UPDATES (nasaspaceflight.com)

 

[Flyaway]

And it aborted again at the same place: T-1.3 seconds.

Edit: the Raptors don't seem to be very happy with something about this test.

Edit 2: and that's it for today.

I think you got something mixed up. They haven't even done anything yet today.

OK, the YouTube app on my TV is officially useless. It showed me what it claimed was a livestream but was obviously a rerun of yesterday. Sorry, all.

Oh sorry I hope it wasn’t the new link I posted.

 

[TomS]

And it aborted again at the same place: T-1.3 seconds.

Edit: the Raptors don't seem to be very happy with something about this test.

Edit 2: and that's it for today.

I think you got something mixed up. They haven't even done anything yet today.

OK, the YouTube app on my TV is officially useless. It showed me what it claimed was a livestream but was obviously a rerun of yesterday. Sorry, all.

Oh sorry I hope it wasn’t the new link I posted.

Nope, my own screwup. I went to the SpaceX channel on my TV's YouTube app. It's way less informative than the usual computer screen and didn't give me a hint that I was seeing a replay.

 

[Josh_TN]

I did the exact same thing when I first loaded the feed this morning; you just beat me to posting.

 

[Moose]

Yeah I've had that happen with other live YouTube stuff on various devices. YT just can't be arsed to get some versions of its app up to snuff.

For those looking for a heads-up, follow this account

https://twitter.com/x/status/1336418066150907906

View: https://twitter.com/NASAPlanes/status/1336418066150907906

NSF's various trackers generally agree, based on flight time and past SpaceX practices, that when the WB-57 takes off the hop attempt is likely about an hour away.

 

[Flyaway]

There’s two NASA T-38s over Brownsville apparently.

NASA sure does love its old planes.

 

[Deino]

And it aborted again at the same place: T-1.3 seconds.

Edit: the Raptors don't seem to be very happy with something about this test.

Edit 2: and that's it for today.

I think you got something mixed up. They haven't even done anything yet today.

Really?? So this is not live?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8bZkTjEnXw&feature=youtu.be

 

[sferrin]

That one is. He wasn't looking at that one.

 

[antigravite]

Hi.

Spacex just reinstalled their "watch now" button on their website to livestream Starship SN8 flight test.
Either a live feed in about 20 mn from now. Or a launch.

View: https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o

"Scheduled for 3PM CST / 9PM UTC"

A.

 

[Flyaway]

Hold. Recycling.

 

[antigravite]

New T-0 set at 4:40 PM CST / 2240 UTC.
Livestream ribbon announcements.

A.

 

[Moose]

T-5 minutes

 

[Flyaway]

Well that’s one way of landing. Looks like with the Falcon 9 development it’s going to be landing that’s tricky.

 

[TomcatViP]

Transition to horizontal free fall!! They did It! What a beauty!
Never mind the crash (controlled)

Bravo SpaceX

A little souvenir for posterity:

 

[Moose]

I didn't expect them to get so bloody close to landing it, wow.

 

[antigravite]

Awsome 6:42. Really.

A

 

[Orionblamblam]

 

[Flyaway]

Please remember it’s destruction is utterly irrelevant to the program other than the data gathered.

 

[Flyaway]

Expect to see SN9 roll out to pad pretty soon. If this one almost made it then I expect one of the next two to make it.

 

[mkellytx]

Got to love it, dead center of the landing pad. Here's to SN9.

 

[Orionblamblam]

I'm curious how many people will misinterpret this...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkFDOzfMUtA

 

[Josh_TN]

Apparently the header tank wasn't providing enough pressure which starved the engines during landing. But that's a relatively minor thing; the belly flop and aerodynamic control during freefall was amazing, along with the pull up and relight. They are like 90% of the way there in terms of controlling the re-entry and landing. Also the ship seemed to just hover with a bit of down range slide in a completely stable vertical maneuver under the power of a single engine for like a minute before the turn over. Their ability to make that ship move through complicated shifts in alignment is awesome; it really is a step above the Phalcon 9 re-entries.

 

[sferrin]

I'm curious how many people will misinterpret this...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkFDOzfMUtA

Almost everybody who has the word, "journalist" on their resume. (Deserved or not.)

 

[TomcatViP]

@Josh_TN : Well said. They can be really proud of their achievement. But for now, I am sure it's raining Tequila down there...

 

[Flyaway]

It’s surprisingly elegant in the air for 200 tonnes of steel.

 

[MihoshiK]

Apparently the header tank wasn't providing enough pressure which starved the engines during landing. But that's a relatively minor thing; the belly flop and aerodynamic control during freefall was amazing, along with the pull up and relight. They are like 90% of the way there in terms of controlling the re-entry and landing. Also the ship seemed to just hover with a bit of down range slide in a completely stable vertical maneuver under the power of a single engine for like a minute before the turn over. Their ability to make that ship move through complicated shifts in alignment is awesome; it really is a step above the Phalcon 9 re-entries.

Also looks like the landing legs never deployed, and those also take up a lot of the landing shock. Oh well, for most of it's flight it was frankly amazing. That bellyflop tho, that happened right quickly. Wonder how that would feel to a crew.

 

[merriman]

Nailed the landing!

Once they beat those Raptor's into submission, we're home free!

What a stable floater during decent, I saw little 'wing' deflection, seemed the vehicle is dynamically stable. Well done, SpaceX! And the pitch-up for landing was done with authority and precision, even as the engines acted up during that maneuver.

Validation, at last!

David

 

[Michel Van]

Looking the video
I think there were issue with raptor engines including a engine bay fire.
What I notice was this green exhaust of Last working engine
Again issue of engine rich combustion?

 

[TomcatViP]

@Michel Van : I was wondering too but the green glow got me confused (too rich LOX?).

Musk:

“Fuel header tank pressure was low during landing burn, causing touchdown velocity to be high & RUD, but we got all the data we needed!” Musk tweeted. “Congrats SpaceX team hell yeah!!”

“Mars, here we come!”

 

[Josh_TN]

Apparently the header tank wasn't providing enough pressure which starved the engines during landing. But that's a relatively minor thing; the belly flop and aerodynamic control during freefall was amazing, along with the pull up and relight. They are like 90% of the way there in terms of controlling the re-entry and landing. Also the ship seemed to just hover with a bit of down range slide in a completely stable vertical maneuver under the power of a single engine for like a minute before the turn over. Their ability to make that ship move through complicated shifts in alignment is awesome; it really is a step above the Phalcon 9 re-entries.

Also looks like the landing legs never deployed, and those also take up a lot of the landing shock. Oh well, for most of it's flight it was frankly amazing. That bellyflop tho, that happened right quickly. Wonder how that would feel to a crew.

In an actually re-entry from space I don't think it would use that maneuver; I think it will set it's angle on a glide slope not unlike the space shuttle. I think that maneuver was necessary for the test to demonstrate the aerodynamics of the aero breaking maneuver and the transition to full vertical for the retro landing.

 

[Dilandu]

What I notice was this green exhaust of Last working engine
Again issue of engine rich combustion?

Pressure drop, wrong fuel mix & copper cooler system started to burn. No matter. It was AMAZING test!