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(Note even though I have some "issues" vis-a-vis Musk's plans this must be said)
(Note even though I have some "issues" vis-a-vis Musk's plans this must be said)
What's he doing that doesn't meet your approval?
If we're tossing 2 cents on the table here's mine.
If Starship/Superheavy succeeds, NASA's entire manned space program will be rendered obsolete. The contrast with a fully reusable launch system equivalent to the SLS in capacity will make it impossible to ignore the cost comparison. Public interest will be galvanized by a successful launch and the single digit $Millions vs multiple $Billions in launch cost should finally spark a political re-ordering in future space development.
There is nothing SLS can offer that SHS couldn't do at a 100x savings. SHS is intended to put 100-125 tons into LEO in a fully reusable configuration. Cost to orbit could surpass the $100/pound target. With orbital refueling, Starship can carry 100 tons to the moon, land, and then return to Earth.
Picturing the contrast between an Orion capsule heading to the Moon with a Starship coasting next to it is both comical and poignant because it is what is at stake. If Musk prevails, he will wipe out 50 years of frustration.
The coming Years will be very interesting
Next Starship/Superheavy and follow up 18 meter ø version.
We have Blue Origin New Glenn what Jeff Bezos labels as "Medium" launch rocket
So we will see with New Armstrong something in payload size of NOVA class lift rockets
Next to that are India study Saturn V size booster
And China do R&D on Long March 9 a Saturn V size rocket
While China private space flight industry follow SpaceX success, special Link Space.
i make since years the joke that if NASA astronauts land again on Moon.
They will be backseat passengers on SpaceX/Blue Origin spaceships,
while needing a visa for Chinese passport check on Moon Arrival
and go then to stay overnight in India lunar resort...
As I noted before Elon has an agenda that pretty much requires this approach but that in no way makes it the BEST or even the smartest way to do things. If it works as planned and blows open space I will have no heartburn or complaints. If it doesn't there's going to be another 'space-crash' and I've been through enough of those already to want to see another one.
And once again, this is being done by private individuals without their hands in my pocket. Even if I didn't approve, it ain't my money.
RanulfC said:The question though is do we really NEED a Saturn V class rocket and payload capability or do we need regular and inexpensive access to orbit. The two while not mutually exclusive are also not automatically the same for a reason.
And once again, this is being done by private individuals without their hands in my pocket. Even if I didn't approve, it ain't my money.
There are still people who will bitch. That much success makes insecure people feel small. There are many who go out of their way to attack him just to make themselves feel better.
And once again, this is being done by private individuals without their hands in my pocket. Even if I didn't approve, it ain't my money.
There are still people who will bitch. That much success makes insecure people feel small. There are many who go out of their way to attack him just to make themselves feel better.
And once again, this is being done by private individuals without their hands in my pocket. Even if I didn't approve, it ain't my money.
There are still people who will bitch. That much success makes insecure people feel small. There are many who go out of their way to attack him just to make themselves feel better.
Space X wouldn’t be in the position they are now without the public money they got from NASA for commercial cargo and crew to ISS.
And once again, this is being done by private individuals without their hands in my pocket. Even if I didn't approve, it ain't my money.
There are still people who will bitch. That much success makes insecure people feel small. There are many who go out of their way to attack him just to make themselves feel better.
Space X wouldn’t be in the position they are now without the public money they got from NASA for commercial cargo and crew to ISS.
It wasn't a donation. NASA paid for a service. That's like complaining that Apple got money because I bought an iphone.
Space X wouldn’t be in the position they are now without the public money they got from NASA for commercial cargo and crew to ISS.
Didn’t say it was a donation, and doesn’t change my point.
Didn’t say it was a donation, and doesn’t change my point.
Of course it does. There isn't a company on the planet that doesn't depend on customers.