Hobbes said:FighterJock said:Interesting video fredymac, it is a wonder why SpaceX are even bothering with the Block 5 Falcon 9 rocket when they said that all future production of the Falcon 9 would be stopped and all future production would be concentrated on the BFR? ??? :-\
No, SpaceX said all future development will be stopped. They have at least 50 launches on the manifest for the next 4 years, and can't just postpone those indefinitely until BFR is operational.
SteveO said:Watched that video earlier today and if I remember correctly they said the block 5 is the design freeze point for Falcon 9 and after seven successful launches of the block 5 standard it can be classed as human spaceflight/astronaut rated.
Design and engineering efforts switch to BFR while block 5 is in production I believe.
I would like to point out that the developement freeze is imposed on SpaceX by NASA. SpaceX likes incremental development, making small changes to almost every successive rocket, tweaking it to get a little bit more performance every launch, as opposed to making the design what they want from the beginning and sticking with it. NASA is pretty adamantly opposed to this, because they feel that each change in the rocket introduces the possibility of a previously unknown safety issue. To be fair, they have a point -- the loss of AMOS-6 was a textbook example of such an occurrence. SpaceX had introduced densified propellant, oxidizer and even densified helium pressurization fluid, to fit more into the same tanks and to push more through with the same pumps. The densified helium caused some of the oxidizer to freeze solid, which eventually caused the loss of the vehicle and it's payload. However, at the same time it was tweaks like densification that allowed Falcon 9 to reach the kind of performance that makes reusability viable at a low cost.
But anyway, one of the criteria NASA has set for commercial operators to human-rate their rockets is to launch exactly the same design, with no changes *at all* for a given number of times, IIRC 9. SpaceX has chosen "Block 5" to be this point where the development of Falcon 9 ends. Now, of course, all their development engineers had no more work to do on the F9, so it of course makes sense for them to start working on the next big thing.