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And the people bowed and prayed to the rocket god they made...do not raise up that which ye cannot put downe
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Michel Van said:
Musk is step closer to make Starbase a real town
Question: with status of town or city in Texas. can Starbase expand without environment regulation ?
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No, he will still be restricted by the county, state, and federal regulations.

It does let the township levy taxes and issue bonds to pay for infrastructure and services (police/fire), etc, which is potentially beneficial depending on how big he'd like to see Starbase become. Hypothetical example: the town issues bonds to afford (in part or whole) a project to build or expand a port terminal near Starbase.
 
i found Map of Boca Chica
it show not only Starbase ownership in 2021
But also 1967 layout of Kennedy Shores project by John Caputa.
In 1968 the Hurricane Beulah devastated the area.
ending the Kennedy Shores project, with only 30 homes build, known today as Boca Chica.

Dark Blue show the wetland during tides
Yellow show SpaceX Property in 2021 and bevor the exchange of State property.
Light Blue is State property.
 

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This was a big reason I hoped Elon would come to Alabama.

Birmingham, in North Central Alabama--actually has a port of call and a massive steel plant in Cordova....the Alabama River flows into the Gulf not far from the former Krupp steel plant still active.

If you *really* want to launch many times a year--having launch facilities at a river mouth is helpful.
 
publiusr said:
Birmingham, in North Central Alabama--actually has a port of call and a massive steel plant in Cordova....the Alabama River flows into the Gulf not far from the former Krupp steel plant still active.
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i would not surprised if steel for Starship comes from there

Falcon 9 booster B1067 made it 26th flight twenty six times
 
Michel Van said:
i would not surprised if steel for Starship comes from there

Falcon 9 booster B1067 made it 26th flight twenty six times
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I would not be surprised if the steel for Starship came from the cheapest source available. Oh no, my bad, due to English only being my third language, what I really meant to say was that I would be surprised if the steel for Starship did not come from the cheapest source...
 
NMaude said:
Given Musk's very big manufacturing presence in the PRC I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's been using a LOT of cheap Chinese steel.
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I can tell you we (not SpaceX) once looked at Chinese high hard and the quality control was so bad batch to batch that it was useless for our purpose.

So probably not. Aren't they still looking at developing their own alloy? I would think for control and oversight purposes you'd want the plant involved close to home for that.
 
_Del_ said:
I can tell you we (not SpaceX) once looked at Chinese high hard and the quality control was so bad batch to batch that it was useless for our purpose.

So probably not. Aren't they still looking at developing their own alloy? I would think for control and oversight purposes you'd want the plant involved close to home for that.
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Thought they were using 304L 1/4 or 1/2 hard or 316?
 
_Del_ said:
I can tell you we (not SpaceX) once looked at Chinese high hard and the quality control was so bad batch to batch that it was useless for our purpose.

So probably not. Aren't they still looking at developing their own alloy? I would think for control and oversight purposes you'd want the plant involved close to home for that.
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They have their own alloy but they do not have any mills, they contract through mills or buy stock that's on the market as the case may be. They've bought from mills in the US, Europe, China, and Ukraine that I know of.
 
martinbayer said:
I would not be surprised if the steel for Starship came from the cheapest source available. Oh no, my bad, due to English only being my third language, what I really meant to say was that I would be surprised if the steel for Starship did not come from the cheapest source...
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I know for a fact that they have bought a lot of steel from Outokumpu. I don't know if they are single-sourcing, or also getting from elsewhere. They are definitely not among the cheapest possible sources, so there is probably some other quality they are going for.

Also, the cost of steel kind of vanishes in the rounding errors when building spaceships, so they probably don't worry a lot about it.
 
Of course the said derangement work both ways. Side effect are blindness, followed by total loss of brain function. There is a growing epidemy at NASAspaceflight, and some nasty isolated cases here, along with a variant called PDS - Putin Derangement Syndrome.
 
Grey Havoc said:
Variation on TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). In this case it is Elon Derangement Syndrome.
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Basically, people don't like Elon's politics, so they sell their Tesla and donate the money to the DNC. Oh, and he's the dumbest person on the planet now. And a literal Nazi. (The mere mention of Elon Musk triggers them into irrationality.)
 
Moose said:
Insisting that all criticism of these men is rooted in derangement sounds, I dunno, a little deranged.
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You think saying Elon is the dumbest man on the planet who wants to steal your money is rational? Uhm. . .okay. Or selling your car because the guy who built the company changed political sides is normal?

Is there rational criticism? Sure. Who said there wasn't? Are there legitimate reasons to criticize Elon Musk? Obviously. Nobody bats a thousand. But getting hysterical or resorting to name calling isn't a sign of informed objectivity.
 
Archibald said:
Of course the said derangement work both ways. Side effect are blindness, followed by total loss of brain function. There is a growing epidemy at NASAspaceflight, and some nasty isolated cases here, along with a variant called PDS - Putin Derangement Syndrome.
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Of course these layman's terms are ambiguous and open to interpretation - it could refer either to the derangement of others caused by the person in question, or the effects and manifestations of the derangement of the person itself.
 

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