SNCAN (Nord Aviation) and Nord-SFECMAS Projects

Hi!
"During July 1945 Nord launched the study of a jet aircraft N. 1600 under the direction of Louis Coroller. This arrow-shaped twin-engine was officially ordered in duplicate on January 27, 1947 (contract no. 5324/46). The two aircraft should have received Rateau B-120 reactors (SRA-1 of approximately 1700kgp) in two spindles attached to the fuselage, at mid-height. The empennage was then provided in T shape. (stabilizer mounted at the top of the fin).

The French reactors were made to wait and then proved too heavy. Endorsements to the market, in 1949 and 1950, liquidated these two prototypes by replacing them with a single N. 1601 with two Derwent V turbojet engines from Rolls-Royce (1587kgp)."
Source : LES AVIONS DE COMBAT FRANCAIS 1944-1960 Ⅱ-CHASSE LOURDE, BOMBARDEMENT, ASSAUT, EXPLORATION, Jean CUNY Introduction du General Pierre M.GALLOIS,
DOCAVIA EDITIONS LARIVIERE 30.

http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/nord_1601.php
"Under the designation Nord 1601, Nord designed a single-seat twin turbojet-powered aircraft to investigate the aerodynamic capability and efficiency of swept wings and related high-lift devices. A cantilever mid-wing monoplane with 33° of sweepback on the wing leading edges, the N 1601 had a wing incorporating ailerons, spoilers, leading-edge slats and trailing-edge flaps. The configuration included swept tail surfaces, and there were retractable tricycle landing gear and two 1814kg thrust Rolls-Royce Derwent 5 turbojet engines in underslung wing-mounted nacelles on each side of the fuselage. The pilot was accommodated on a Martin-Baker ejector seat in a cockpit enclosed by a jettisonable canopy. The aircraft was first flown on 24 January 1950, and the research programme of the 12.46m span N 1601, which had a maximum speed of 1000km/h and a ceiling of 12000m, provided valuable design information."

Specification

MODEL​
Nord 1601​
ENGINE​
2 x Rolls-Royce "Derwent" 5 turbojets, 1814kg​
DIMENSIONS​
Wingspan​
12.46 m​
41 ft 11 in​
PERFORMANCE​
Max. speed​
1000 km/h​
621 mph​
Ceiling​
12000 m​
39350 ft​
 

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Hi! F. Vertival tail stabilizer shape is different from F-WFKK.
 

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Hi!
The Nord 1620 project
In the spring of 1948 the STAe asked Nord for the study of a developed combat fighter from the N. 1600.
The proposed plane retained the formula of the two reactors attached to the fuselage (this time of "Nene") but wing and empennages would not have presented any arrow.
The landing gear offered was one-track (two diabolos).
The pre-project file had to be presented in February 1949 but was not mentioned later and the precise reasons for this are unknown.
Source : LES AVIONS DE COMBAT FRANCAIS 1944-1960 Ⅱ-CHASSE LOURDE, BOMBARDEMENT, ASSAUT, EXPLORATION, Jean CUNY Introduction du General Pierre M.GALLOIS,
DOCAVIA EDITIONS LARIVIERE 30.
 

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From ; Les Avions de Combat Francais,

the Nord ramjet-powered interceptor Project.
 

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I'm not happy with this huge dump of scans with precious little in the way of sources being mentioned here from the usual suspects. There are poor scans, scans of pictures of models of dubious authenticity...

I can see a lot of scans from Les Avions de Combat Francais in a short time frame here, I'm not sure this is ethically justified.
 
Just to say that in the last French monthly magazine Fana de l'aviation (Issue n°624, November 2021), there is an article about the Mach 3+ Nord Aviation target drone CT.41 (first flight 1959). And in this article, there is a design of an unknown (at least for me) twin fin delta canard supersonic transport project with four (anyway, that's what I think I see in the drawing) turbojet-ramjet engines. This project was proposed for the Concorde program.
View: https://fr-fr.facebook.com/LeFanaDelAviationMagazine/photos/a.273499812716817/4569377193129036/?type=3&theater
 
From Decollage 1946,

what was this SNCAN 20 ?.
 

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Just to say that in the last French monthly magazine Fana de l'aviation (Issue n°624, November 2021), there is an article about the Mach 3+ Nord Aviation target drone CT.41 (first flight 1959). And in this article, there is a design of an unknown (at least for me) twin fin delta canard supersonic transport project with four (anyway, that's what I think I see in the drawing) turbojet-ramjet engines. This project was proposed for the Concorde program.
View: https://fr-fr.facebook.com/LeFanaDelAviationMagazine/photos/a.273499812716817/4569377193129036/?type=3&theater
Hello,
a very good article on on great subject, M3 early sixteen!
any chance to find a 3 view drawing to scratchbuilt a scale model ?
 
From Air Pictorial 1954,

a small Info about Ar.1502 or Nord-1502..
 

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In my original SNCAN plans, I found this one manually annoted about studying variation on Nord 1500, with a twin tail.
 

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From Air Pictorial 1954,

a small Info about Ar.1502 or Nord-1502..
Funny: 2 wrong references in only 4 lines of text! :eek: It's not the 1502, it's the Nord 1500-01 Griffon I. It's not the 402, ir's the SFECMAS 1402 Gerfaut.
 
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In 1961 Nord Aviation carried on with ramjet research. Their Vega flew a Mach 4.2 and 25 km. But with so many aerospace vehicles and projects named Vega it is hard to find anything.
 
In 1961 Nord Aviation carried on with ramjet research. Their Vega flew a Mach 4.2 and 25 km. But with so many aerospace vehicles and projects named Vega it is hard to find anything.
A photo of Nord-Aviation Véga ramjet missile.
 

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Extracts from a 1957 report comparing various SNCAN and SNCASE ramjets.
 

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Amazing find dear Philippe,and here is more Info,

N.1540 was a single seat low-wing jet interceptor Project for 1953 contest,powered by one HS Nene engine
or ATAR 101 E2 engine
N.1541 was a Project version,powered by one ATAR 101 M13 turbojet engine
 
Amazing my dear Philippe,was it a missile or what ?.
I don't know. Probably an aerodynamic model for the study of the various projects of Griffon III twin-ramjet formula.
 

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I think that,this Nord 550 was came from SFECAMS (Arsenal),and began with Type-520,and may
there was a series, Type 500,510,530 & 540 ?!.
 

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