Sikorsky CH-53K King Stallion Heavy Lift Replacement (HLR)

Flyaway said:
Why is it that this has lost out overall as a model to the Chinook for foreign sales?
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Slightly digressing, the German STH selection is not quite crystal clear as now it turns out the H-47 purchase is double the cost

Chinook helicopters could cost Germany twice as much as planned, Business Insider reports

Germany's planned purchase of 60 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters manufactured by Boeing to replace its ageing CH-53 fleet could cost twice as much as planned, Business Insider reported on Thursday, citing several government and industry sources.
www.reuters.com

cheers
 
RavenOne said:
Flyaway said:
Why is it that this has lost out overall as a model to the Chinook for foreign sales?
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Slightly digressing, the German STH selection is not quite crystal clear as now it turns out the H-47 purchase is double the cost

Chinook helicopters could cost Germany twice as much as planned, Business Insider reports

Germany's planned purchase of 60 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters manufactured by Boeing to replace its ageing CH-53 fleet could cost twice as much as planned, Business Insider reported on Thursday, citing several government and industry sources.
www.reuters.com

cheers
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Boeing costs more than they said it would?

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Detail of the CTFD, Containerized Flight Training Device:

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Training Fit for a King

Lockheed Martin’s suite of CH-53K® training devices, developed concurrently with the King Stallion™ aircraft, is enabling U.S. Marines across the United States to successfully complete their missions.
www.lockheedmartin.com
 
sferrin said:
RavenOne said:
Flyaway said:
Why is it that this has lost out overall as a model to the Chinook for foreign sales?
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Slightly digressing, the German STH selection is not quite crystal clear as now it turns out the H-47 purchase is double the cost

Chinook helicopters could cost Germany twice as much as planned, Business Insider reports

Germany's planned purchase of 60 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters manufactured by Boeing to replace its ageing CH-53 fleet could cost twice as much as planned, Business Insider reported on Thursday, citing several government and industry sources.
www.reuters.com

cheers
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Boeing costs more than they said it would?

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Shades of LM there?
 
Archibald said:
Now that's begs one crazy question. Could a CH-53K lift a F-35B and then drop it midair - and then the F-35B flies away ?
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No.

For this test, the F-35 was stripped down, including having the engine removed.

More prosaically, I'm not sure where the quick releases are in this rig but I suspect they're at the helo end of the harness. In which case you end up trying to fly a plane with several hundred pounds of heavy chain banging around in the airflow.
 
35 more CH-53K contracted (the first contract post FRP) with 8 for IDF (that will now have 12 on order) :

US Navy awards Sikorsky $2.7 billion for 35 CH-53K helicopters

The contract covers 12 lot 7 and 15 lot 8 aircraft for the U.S. Marine Corps, as well as eight aircraft for the Israeli Air Force.
www.defensenews.com

Notice how the unit cost (extrapolated only) has slightly nosed down.
 
SteveO said:
Nice video, it has that funny frame rate effect where the rotors are hardly moving.
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I do love videos like that...


TomcatViP said:
New USN contract for 6 new LRIP King with support (550M$):

Sikorsky Gets $550M Navy Contract Modification to Build Additional Heavy-Lift Helicopters - GovCon Wire

Looking for the latest GovCon News? Check out our story: Sikorsky Gets $550M Navy Contract Modification to Build Additional Heavy-Lift Helicopters. Click to read more!
www.govconwire.com

Contracts for October 26, 2020

Today's Defense Department contracts valued at $7 million or more are now live on Defense.gov.
www.defense.gov
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which puts LRIP cost-per-plane including support at $91.67mil.


TomcatViP said:
35 more CH-53K contracted (the first contract post FRP) with 8 for IDF (that will now have 12 on order) :

US Navy awards Sikorsky $2.7 billion for 35 CH-53K helicopters

The contract covers 12 lot 7 and 15 lot 8 aircraft for the U.S. Marine Corps, as well as eight aircraft for the Israeli Air Force.
www.defensenews.com

Notice how the unit cost (extrapolated only) has slightly nosed down.
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2700/35 = $77.14mil flyaway cost.

That's already $10mil less than one of the early claims on flyaway cost, a roughly 13% reduction.
 
fightingirish said:
I might be wrong, but IMHO the Hebrew word "Pere" means "bull" in English.
Source (X fka twitter):
View: https://x.com/Israel_MOD/status/1904205854179840033?t=skzCCtu7A6jI6iwsMGqwTA&s=19
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The Hebrew word they are using is פרא, which I think more usually means "Wild Ass," an undomesticated donkey native to to the region. Google wants to translate it as just "Wild" but that's not quite right.

 
When פרא (pereh) was used as the designator for a Magach variant (the missile launcher for Tammuz, then Spike N-Loss missiles) 15-20 years ago, Tsahal used the translation "Onager".
Which is indeed a specific species of wild donkey, cited in the Bible.
 
dan_inbox said:
When פרא (pereh) was used as the designator for a Magach variant (the missile launcher for Tammuz, then Spike N-Loss missiles) 15-20 years ago, Tsahal used the translation "Onager".
Which is indeed a specific species of wild donkey, cited in the Bible.
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And was also a Roman artillery piece.
 
dan_inbox said:
Indeed, but in this case it is about the wild ass from the tanakh (Job 39:5), because the heyl ha'avir now names its helos after animals, like petrel, owl, cobra, viper, bat.
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Ah, gotcha.

I was actually meaning the Pereh "tank" with the artillery reference, though.
 


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