Shadow on The Wall - Work in Progress by Jozef Gatial

[robunos]

Looking at the drawing you have posted above, it appears to me that the windshield is angled backwards in two planes; see below ( red lines ).

cheers,
Robin.

 

[galgot]

Looking at the drawing you have posted above, it appears to me that the windshield is angled backwards in two planes; see below ( red lines ).

cheers,
Robin.

Same here, I see an angled windshield separated in two pieces by that « forehead » to nose extension in the middle. And some side windows.
Like so :

Btw, why did they put folding canards ?
Thanks for these artwork M.Gatial. Specially that last one I like a lot.

 

[robunos]

Do we know what sub-variant the drawing depicts ?
I've just looked in Jenkins' 'Valkyrie', and there are drawings in there of a version with a droop-nose . . . described as the Model 804-4 . . .
Will scan and post suitable images tomorrow . . .

cheers,
Robin.

 

[galgot]

Btw is there a complete plan with top and front like that beautiful side cutaway ?

 

[robunos]

. . .

cheers,
Robin.

 

[Agent A]

Looking at the drawing you have posted above, it appears to me that the windshield is angled backwards in two planes; see below ( red lines ).

cheers,
Robin.

Same here, I see an angled windshield separated in two pieces by that « forehead » to nose extension in the middle. And some side windows.
Like so :
View attachment 645832

I think you're right with the windshield, and if you look at Sections A-A thru to D-D you can get a sense of how the surface in front of the windshield would blend in.

 

[PlanesPictures]

Btw is there a complete plan with top and front like that beautiful side cutaway ?
View attachment 645848

These drawings were originally black and white. For better work in modeler I use colorized version

 

[galgot]

Thank you for the drawings.
Call me nuts, or maybe it’s what I drink… But the more I look at these, the more I see something like an episcope or forward vision system in the middle there.
But the mirrors (if they are) should be inverted...


Makes sense ?
Also there are two top windows, and maybe some small windows on the side of that « nose ».

 

[robunos]

Here we go, from 'Valkyrie', Jenkins and Landis, 2004, pp. 36-7 . . .

cheers,
Robin.

 

[galgot]

Ah yes these top windows are there : "refueling windows". Makes sense as the air refuel receptacle is located further forward of these. Also the two small ones : "Gross (!?) vision windows".
Thanks !

 

[robunos]

I think it's 'Cross Vision Windows', to allow a limited view to the other side, again for such things as refuelling . . .

cheers,
Robin.

 

[PlanesPictures]

next one

 

[PlanesPictures]

Today when I was searching my CDs and DVDs for an old pictures done for David Myhra I found these huge pictures rendered as "posters". If you like them you can use them as you like

 

[PlanesPictures]

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[PlanesPictures]

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[PlanesPictures]

I have been scanning old 30-40 year old films for several days now and I found my old paintings, which completely fell out of my memory. He took the 130 cm wide Phantom II on a logarithmic ruler for 3 months. And what was before? Paper models photographed from different sides. I don't know if it's good or bad news, but for several months I've been trying to revive some projects like oil on plates.

 

[PlanesPictures]

I have been scanning old 30-40 year old films for several days now and I found my old paintings, which completely fell out of my memory. He took the 130 cm wide Phantom II on a logarithmic ruler for 3 months. And what was before? Paper models photographed from different sides. I don't know if it's good or bad news, but for several months I've been trying to revive some projects like oil on plates.

and paper models

 

[merriman]

These paper models. Were they used as perspective models to assist with the paintings?

David

 

[PlanesPictures]

These paper models. Were they used as perspective models to assist with the paintings?

David

Yes, the pictures of these models were to serve as a basis for painting aircraft. The next step was to use a logarithmic ruler, calculator and PC - first to display points, then a line and finally a real textured model.

 

[riggerrob]

Looking at the drawing you have posted above, it appears to me that the windshield is angled backwards in two planes; see below ( red lines ).

cheers,
Robin.

Same here, I see an angled windshield separated in two pieces by that « forehead » to nose extension in the middle. And some side windows.
Like so :
View attachment 645832
Btw, why did they put folding canards ?
Thanks for these artwork M.Gatial. Specially that last one I like a lot.

This reminds us of the Bell AH-63 attack helicopter. The pilot sat in front while the gunner sat in the rear seat and looked for targets through a periscope. After test pilots complained of poor vision for the gunner, it lost out to Hughes' AH-64 Apache attack helicopter.

Back in 1993, I worked on a similar project for NASA. As a lead up to an American SST, NASA wanted to test a video periscope on a two-seater F-14 Starfighter. the plan was for the rear-seat pilot to practice landings with a safety pilot in the front seat. NASA wanted to evaluate how well the rear-seat pilot could land with his only visual reference being the TV camera mounted under the nose.

Now "artificial vision" combines images from an under-nose camera, infrared, GPS, etc. to allow the latest biz jets to fly very low IFR approaches in miserable visibility.

 

[galgot]

I think a kind synthetic vision for landing instead of the droop nose was envisaged at one time for the B2707 , or for later boeing sst studies :
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Could only found that image. No sure at all if the technology mature enough at the time, to be practical and certified...
What's sure is that a retractable camera was to be under fuselage , behind the nose gear, for help taxying. The cockpit being so far forward of the nose landing gear, while turning on a taxiway the crew would have been over grass for example, not seeing clearly if the nose gear was still going to roll on solid ground.

The Republic F-103 also was to have a periscope for forward vision I think.

 

[flateric]

It was NASA 'Synthetic vision' studies for HSCT, late 80s-early 90s

NASA - Helping pilots see through the 'soup'

 

[PlanesPictures]

One from old model fixed and prepared for texturing

 

[PlanesPictures]

It is really interesting that many projects from this period have a large number of landing legs. Attached M-20 had a total of six landing legs with 28 wheels, similar to the C-5 Galaxy. Was it due to a reduction in the specific pressure on the landing area? Because it must have been a lot of dead weight

 

[Grey Havoc]

Being able to operate from civilian airfields and semi-prepared airstrips was a factor in at least some of those designs.

 

[PlanesPictures]

First underpainting, oil on canvas, 140x80 cm
Mig-29 under Spis Castle

 

[PlanesPictures]

First underpainting, oil on canvas, 140x80 cm
Mig-29 under Spis Castle

Second underpainting.

Some time ago I described paper models, which I used in my beginnings as a basis for painting. Today, when I no longer want to texturize all the models I have done, I came up with a way to mark the main panels and important details on the model. I simply cut them into a model.

 

[Pioneer]

First underpainting, oil on canvas, 140x80 cm
Mig-29 under Spis Castle

Second underpainting.

Some time ago I described paper models, which I used in my beginnings as a basis for painting. Today, when I no longer want to texturize all the models I have done, I came up with a way to mark the main panels and important details on the model. I simply cut them into a model.

Love the Fairchild-Republic FX artwork!!

Regards
Pioneer

 

[Tim52413]

TB-3

Necropost, but Soviet bomber on your painting is TB-1

 

[riggerrob]

It was NASA 'Synthetic vision' studies for HSCT, late 80s-early 90s

NASA - Helping pilots see through the 'soup'

Back in 1993, I was working at Butler Parachutes (California City, near Edwards Air Force Base) and packed a specialized pilot emergency parachute for a two-seater F-104 Starfighter that was modified for synthetic vision experiments. The system relied on a video camera hung under the nose. They needed a specially-shaped parachute container (reverse-wedge?) to provided sufficient clearance between the pilot's knees and the instrument panel.

 

[TM64]

family with big brother (not in real scale)

Mr Gatial, would it be possible to post HD 5-views of your Boeing 712, CL-288 and the CL-320? Many thanks