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Still from the movie
Ha! I designed that. Oh, well...
Does anyone know what the drawing in the lower right might be? It looks like a delta with telescoping wings and centerline engine.Skyblazer said:I knew I'd seen that shape before...
Obviously Burt Rutan does not always start from scratch. He based the "Manta" on Vincent Burnelli's 1947 fighter design.
A sweet serendipity from the gallery at flateric's linked page: Burt Rutan working on his computer with the same bizarre model at his side...
Does anyone know what the drawing in the lower right might be? It looks like a delta with telescoping wings and centerline engine.Skyblazer said:I knew I'd seen that shape before...
Obviously Burt Rutan does not always start from scratch. He based the "Manta" on Vincent Burnelli's 1947 fighter design.
A sweet serendipity from the gallery at flateric's linked page: Burt Rutan working on his computer with the same bizarre model at his side...
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I see some similarities with his VTOL tailsitter, mostly in the wing shape, which might be hinged, I think?Does anyone know what the drawing in the lower right might be? It looks like a delta with telescoping wings and centerline engine.Skyblazer said:I knew I'd seen that shape before...
Obviously Burt Rutan does not always start from scratch. He based the "Manta" on Vincent Burnelli's 1947 fighter design.
A sweet serendipity from the gallery at flateric's linked page: Burt Rutan working on his computer with the same bizarre model at his side...
View: https://x.com/Task_Force23/status/1813580918168461690[*]Model 401 "Son of Ares": single-seat jet demonstrator with P&WC JT15D-5D, cantilever low wing, V-tail; built for as-yet unnamed customer to demonstrate "advanced, low-cost manufacturing techniques" for production of research aircraft for both industry and government. Two prototypes [N401XD] (c/n 001), [N401XP] (c/n 002), named "Deimos" and "Phobos", after the names of planet Mars's two natural satellites (Mars being the Roman equivalent of the Greek god Ares).
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I seem to remember a "single stage to tether" deal where a shuttlecock design could make it to orbit and back without needing a thick heat shield...hooking up with a rotovator or something.Breakthroughs, the Product of Innovators By Burt Rutan
I think that everyone will enjoy this Burt's 2007 NDIA presentation
Scaled Composites new, fairly recent and "mystery" programs I've listed;
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- Model 412 Encore — a high-altitude optionally-manned Proteus derivative with a single top-mounted engine;
Oops! You're right! I was fooled by the other known photo of the model...The attached picture of the Model 412 Encore shows a layout with two engines on top ...
This is a "Designations" topic. Since the article doesn't teach us any new designation, wouldn't it be preferable to place it in the "Postwar Projects" section?From Aviation magazine 1979.
You might want to insert a Q here .XR-73 SHEPARD — Series Hybrid Electric Propulsion AiRcraft Demonstration (X-prime program) stealth hybrid uncrewed aircraft system;
Sure would! And just did... Thanks for your vigilance.You might want to insert a Q here .
IMHO anything from SC LLC involving transatmospheric variable geometry ...The flaps between the airfoils change the pressures involved and are effective at extremely high altitudes. GE will likely have viable powerplants soon."Scaled Composites new, fairly recent and "mystery" programs I've listed;
Since we know that the XRQ-73 SHEPARD is due for flying in late 2024, it makes sense to me that this could be what Model 444 is about... We'll see. The glider, however, is a bit more of a mystery.
- unidentified MALE or HALE piloted jet aircraft with circular part of wingplan atop fuselage (see post #84);
- Model 357 — a model number assigned to a secret project mentioned in passing by Burt Rutan;
- "Masscott" — seemingly a hand-launched UAV which appears in a 2016 presentation (see post #83);
- "Great Horned Owl" (XRQ-72) — an all-wing UAV with four pusher fans atop fuselage;
- "Little Horned Owl" — a straight-wing UAV with twin-boom tail (booms extend aft of wing and beyond propeller);
- Model 412 "Encore" — a high-altitude optionally-manned Proteus derivative;
- XRQ-73 SHEPARD — Series Hybrid Electric Propulsion AiRcraft Demonstration (X-prime program) stealth hybrid uncrewed aircraft system;
- Model 432 — unspecified glider; five registrations reserved with FAA on Sep. 18, 2023 [N432XA, *XC, *XS, *XX, *XZ], that all expired on Oct. 18, 2024, and one registration active [N432SF, c/n 003], with certification issued August 13, 2024 for seven years;
- Model 444 — unspecified type; two registrations reserved with FAA on Sep. 9, 2024 [N444LX, *NS], expiring on Oct. 9, 2025.
- A transatmospheric variable geometry model mentioned by Corey Hixson as "based on the tests carried out by Scaled Composites, LLC, which now the company is sure to take to the next altitude when able. The flaps between the airfoils change the pressures involved and are effective at extremely high altitudes. GE will likely have viable powerplants soon."
IMHO anything from SC LLC involving transatmospheric variable geometry ...The flaps between the airfoils change the pressures involved and are effective at extremely high altitudes. GE will likely have viable powerplants soon."
should get a close AF/DoD look.