Really weird aerospace patents

[hesham]

A strange mothership airplane of 1927,carried a fighters,for Mr. R. F. Hall,
was he a designer for Bell company later ?.

1927 Airplane Patent Drawing by Jon Neidert

1927 Airplane Patent Drawing Photograph by Jon Neidert

pixels.com

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Why not read the patent? You have the number in the pic.

US1650346A - Airplane - Google Patents

 

[hesham]

Why not read the patent? You have the number in the pic.

US1650346A - Airplane - Google Patents

I can't reach to it,specially by use number,the Google in many cases gives
you errors.

 

[Apophenia]

A strange mothership airplane of 1927,carried a fighters,for Mr. R. F. Hall, was he a designer for Bell company later ?.

The patent refers to "auxiliary airplanes" (rather than 'fighters'). And, of course, Hall had been working in aviation for a quarter of a century before he went to Bell

Randolph Fordham Hall (1896-1974)

1916-1917 - Thomas Bros. Airplane Corp
1917 - Standard Aeronautical Corp.
1917-1919 - US Army Air Service Technical Branch
1920-1928 - Thomas-Morse Aircraft Corp.
1928-1941 - Cunningham-Hall Aircraft
- Co-founder with Francis E. Cunningham and William T. Thomas
1941-1959 - Bell Aircraft

BTW, R.F. Hall's younger brother was Ted (Theodore Parsons) Hall. Ted also worked at Thomas-Morse and Cunningham-Hall before going on to Consolidated Aircraft in 1931 as a structural engineer.

 

[hesham]

From Aero Digest 1939 & 1940.

 

[hesham]

From Aero Digest 1939,

a strange tailless aircraft to Mr. Max M. Munk.

 

[hesham]

From Aero Digest 1939,

a strange tailless aircraft to Mr. Max M. Munk.

Another patent to him.

US2172289A - Self-controllable airfoil - Google Patents

 

[KHambsch]

From Aero Digest 1939,

a strange tailless aircraft to Mr. Max M. Munk.

Another patent to him.

US2172289A - Self-controllable airfoil - Google Patents

Regarding pages 1 and 2: "Astounding"!!!!!!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

From Aero Digest 1939,

a strange tailless aircraft to Mr. Max M. Munk.

Not too far off from the Stearman-Hammond YS-1

 

[KHambsch]

From Aero Digest 1939,

a strange tailless aircraft to Mr. Max M. Munk.

Not too far off from the Stearman-Hammond YS-1

View attachment 684677

I image things can get "weirder"...yes?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

From Aero Digest 1939,

a strange tailless aircraft to Mr. Max M. Munk.

Not too far off from the Stearman-Hammond YS-1

View attachment 684677

I image things can get "weirder"...yes?

Sure! The Y-1 was selected by the US Navy prior to WW 2 to be one of their premier target drones as the JH-1. It was used in AA gun testing and training from the late 1930's and resulted in the USN completely revising their AA gun training and doctrine because it proved existing doctrine ineffective.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

From Aero Digest 1939 & 1940.

The second one is the Zap flap - tested on a OS2U Kingfisher and used on the P-61 Black Widow. I have photos of the Kingfisher during testing - will dig those out and share.

Thanks! Mark

 

[hesham]

Don R. Berlin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

OK, we can transfer it here;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/curtiss-curtiss-wright-aircraft.2670/

 

[hesham]

The W.E. Herrmann annular wing aircraft.

Top 10 Real Flying Saucer Aircraft

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[Nik]

That's a really, really, really long drive-shaft to the geared tail rotor....

 

[publiusr]

Some disk like craft here

Hypervelocity Tether Rockets

A blog dedicated to helping Science Fiction authors create and discuss worlds where a realistic setting can still serve the fiction.

toughsf.blogspot.com

And here

Amazon.com

 

[Nik]

Thank you, Publiusr. Site added to my 'fun stuff' collection...

 

[hesham]

Charles J. Fletcher compound helicopter,

USD178598S - Combination airplane and helicopter - Google Patents

 

[hesham]

H. E. Gerlaugh aircraft.

US3286470A - Tip-turbine fan with thrust reverser - Google Patents

 

[hesham]

What was this G.S. Schairer concept ?.

https://www.prc68.com/I/Images/US2160089-1b.jpg

 

[hesham]

From A. C. Thomson,

https://www.prc68.com/I/Images/US2410533-1b.jpg

 

[edwest4]

Get a copy of Flying Saucer Aircraft by Bill Rose.

 

[hesham]

From Le Fana 4/2010.

 

[hesham]

From Aero Digest 1955,

a strange patent to C. G. Taylor.

 

[hesham]

So weird,Emmons,this designer maybe related to a well known company ?.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/14/b3/9f/897295b5c6ae46/US2986877-drawings-page-1.png

 

[Schneiderman]

So weird,Emmons,this designer maybe related to a well known company ?.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/14/b3/9f/897295b5c6ae46/US2986877-drawings-page-1.png

They seem to have submitted the patent on behalf of the US Secretary of the Air Force

 

[Apophenia]

So weird,Emmons,this designer maybe related to a well known company ?.

"Bell engineer, Paul Emmons was assigned the task of creating the basic aerodynamic layout of the X-2, including where the 40 degree swept wings would be placed on the fuselage."
-- Flypast, Vol. 49 No. 7, page 7

Paul C. Emmons was at the Bell Aircraft Corporation as early as September 1941 (NASA mentions him in Supplementary Spin Tests of a 1/20-Scale Model of the Bell XP-39E Airplane dated 31 August 1942). He was still filing patents on behalf of the Bell Aerospace Corporation in the '60s - eg: in 1963, Emmons filed patent US196088, Ground Effect Vehicle.

 

[Conspirator]

H. E. Gerlaugh aircraft.

US3286470A - Tip-turbine fan with thrust reverser - Google Patents

the second image is essentially a Learjet before the Learjet was a thing.

figure 94 i know would take a ton of structural reconfiguration to withstand the weight. basically impractically impossible.
no comment on Figure 95......

 

[hesham]

What was this ?.

 

[TomcatViP]

Flutter forced excitation via a mechanical oscillator.
An electrical engine generate the frequency of the oscillation and the paddle use airstream force to excite the wing spar (?).
If you would want to do that with the electrical engine, a much heavier set would have to be used, negating, perhaps in most case, the representative aspect of the test.

 

[hesham]

Here is Mr. M. Bugar of 1925.

 

[HoHun]

Hi Hesham,

From Aero Digest 1939,

a strange tailless aircraft to Mr. Max M. Munk.

Munk actually was quite an accomplished aerodynamicist who had studied in Germany under Prandtl and played an important role at NACA in their early days:

Max M. Munk

In recognition of the development of thin airfoil theory and the revolutionary Variable Density Wind Tunnel.

www.nasa.gov

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

 

[hesham]

From Mr. Alan Griffith,a VTO aircraft.

 

[Apophenia]

From Mr. Alan Griffith,a VTO aircraft.

That would be Dr. Alan Griffith, CBE FRS

-- https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rsbm.1964.0008

 

[hesham]

Not so weird,but it's a good patent from Norman D. Moore of 1972.

 

[kocovgoce]

Weird ???
Look at this... ;D

this plane will produce a lot of drag and turbulence behind it ?

 

[Stargazer]

Mr. L. E. Oliver seemed to consider that the more fuselages, the better!

 

[Charlesferdinand]

Mr. L. E. Oliver seemed to consider that the more fuselages, the better!

Does this mean North American would have had to pay him a license for the F-82?

 

[Stargazer]

Does this mean North American would have had to pay him a license for the F-82?

Unlikely, since the twin-fuselage formula was already extensively studied in various bomber proposals by James V. Martin between 1919 and 1922... Martin event kept at it in his 1939 Oceanplane and 1951 Flying Ship patent applications! Several others also considered twin-fuselage or twin-hull designs during the inter-war era.