Ratel ZT3A2 Information

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Hello everyone,

I’m in search of information regarding the Ratel ZT3A2.

Specifically, whether or not the launcher itself (note: not the FCS) is stabilized and whether or not this vehicle has Fire-on-the-move capability.

Being a laser-guided ATGM it should have no difficulty dealing with wires like a TOW missile but the launcher being unstabilized may make it unable to fire on the move, either due to a hard limit set by the designers or operational rule set by the SANDF.

I’ve heard that the early ZT3s’ FCSs were unstabilized and this caused issues, so on later variants a stabilized FCS was introduced.

According to the Denel website (regarding the ZT3A2 Ingwe) “It has crossfire capability from adjacent platforms with high-speed launch from helicopter platforms and fire-on-the-move from land platforms.” I’m wondering if this extends to the Ratel ZT3A2 as an unstabilized launcher would potentially cause problems if the missile is launched while moving.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 

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Hello, i also tried to find information about fire on the move capability.

Here is my current results

First, you show Ratel ZT3A1 - standard, not the ZT3A2.
picture for comparison
ZT3A1 (this version can’t fire on the move, absolutely no any possibility)
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ZT3A2
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And ZT3A2 can’t too,
1000001892.jpg but there is one Important clarification.
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I think if Ratel ZT3A2 doesn't shake, it can shoot without any limits of speed.
But to prove it for Gaijin you should have Manual and information about accuracy of shock indicator.
 
Tim_TeaDrinker said:
Hello, i also tried to find information about fire on the move capability.

Here is my current results

First, you show Ratel ZT3A1 - standard, not the ZT3A2.
picture for comparison
ZT3A1 (this version can’t fire on the move, absolutely no any possibility)
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ZT3A2
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And ZT3A2 can’t too,
View attachment 765504but there is one Important clarification.
View attachment 765505
I think if Ratel ZT3A2 doesn't shake, it can shoot without any limits of speed.
But to prove it for Gaijin you should have Manual and information about accuracy of shock indicator.
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Well timed, haha, I just woke up to this.

About the images- is the visual difference between the A1 and A2 the appearance of the optic? I had figured it was just a dust cover or something in the images I provided. If that’s the case, I should have done my due diligence and I apologize.

Unfortunately, because relatively few of them were made (it’s been just over a month, so my memory is a bit foggy, but I think only about a dozen and a half?) and the fact it’s still in service it will probably be very hard to find information about it.

Ditto, even with the proper sources, I imagine Gaijin will hand wave the true ability of the ZT3A2 as being “close enough” in game. Which, in all fairness, it is pretty close.

Thank you for the information!
 
jspene said:
About the images- is the visual difference between the A1 and A2 the appearance of the optic? I had figured it was just a dust cover or something in the images I provided. If that’s the case, I should have done my due diligence and I apologize.
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ZT3A1 unstabilized and maybe just optic without enything.

ZT3A2 stabilized optic with thermal

jspene said:
Ditto, even with the proper sources, I imagine Gaijin will hand wave the true ability of the ZT3A2 as being “close enough” in game. Which, in all fairness, it is pretty close.
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Tbho Gaijin really unsure about how they configured ZT3A2. Like, they once says that their historical consultant says it can’t fire on the move. But after another two bug-report about Fire on the move capability, they stop to use this argument

But with proper shock indicator i think it will fire at +-18km/h, not 4km/h as current in game.
 

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