A pop-up can be as simple as a 'dumb' sub-orbital booster lofting a load of scrap into a particular LEO orbit. Indiscriminate, but effective.
 
A pop-up can be as simple as a 'dumb' sub-orbital booster lofting a load of scrap into a particular LEO orbit. Indiscriminate, but effective.
Sub-orbital surely means not capable of putting something in orbit? Space LVs typically aren't cheap either, especially when non-re-usable.
 
The scrap doesn't have to stay in orbit, just to be in a certain part of the target/s orbit at a certain point in time. A very loose analogy would be a roadblock. Or, alternatively, an even looser comparison could be had with caltrops, depending on the density/spread of the scrap used.
 
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The scrap doesn't have to stay in orbit, just to be in a certain part of the target/s orbit at a certain point in time. A very loose analogy would be a roadblock.
That might work against one satellite but the missile would still need sufficiently accurate guidance to hit a small starlink satellite even with a shotgun KKV, which means it would still cost SM-3 money and that only downs one satellite and there are 6,350 of them and they only weigh 260kg each and cost only $500k each. A single Falcon 9 reusuable launch costs $15m and can launch ~75 of them, bringing the total launched cost per unit to $700k each. Good look developing an ASAT missile for less than that. This is the sole reason Putin has resorted to nuclear ASAT capabilities - even though nukes are expensive it still works out cheaper overall (assuming the satellites aren't radiologically and EMP-hardened military units).
 
There is really no limit on the amount of scrap one can deploy into the paths of LEO platforms, if you have a half decent tech base and don't care much about pesky little things like collateral damage. Not to mention that such boosters wouldn't necessarily need fixed launch sites. And Starlink satellites aren't exactly that maneuverable. Or robust for that matter.
 
Space is big, very big, even in crowded area like LEO. You also can't just put up a fence and expect things to fly thu it. If you want to take down Starlink you have to target every satellite individually. Also throwing up space junk into orbit is a good way to get every nation on the planet to hate you.
 

Sometimes not even officially. On one LCS, the Command Senior Chief and the Chief's Mess took it on themselves to install a secret and unauthorized Starlink terminal and operate it entirely for their own benefit, flat out lying to the XO and CO about its existence.

This story is such a complete clusterfuck. Bunch of totally disastrous chiefs, abetted by a terrible wardroom (The Combat Systems Officer found out about the illegal install when an official Starshield terminal as fitted near it and did not go directly to the XO or CO about it because their "mentors" told them not to!)

 

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