Northrop P-530 / P-600 / P-610 / YF-17 Design Evolution

Here is a Northrop promotional film posted yesterday (23-April-2020) to YouTube by Periscope Film.

The circa-1978 film depicts the YF-17 Cobra's trip to, and demonstration (flown by Test Pilot Hank Chouteau) at, the 1977 Paris Air Show, as well as at NAS Oceana. The high-AoA pass that has been part and parcel of every F/A-18 flight demo I can recall seeing is shown here for good measure.

Of course, by this time the program had moved into another phase at this point, so the aircraft is referred to as the "F-18 Hornet prototype," and the film is entitled "F-18 Hornet Prototype - Odyssey 77."

YouTube: Periscope Film - Northrop F-18 Hornet prototype at Paris Air Show 1977 "ODYSSEY 1977" 81794
 
Here is a Northrop promotional film posted yesterday (23-April-2020) to YouTube by Periscope Film.

The circa-1978 film depicts the YF-17 Cobra's trip to, and demonstration (flown by Test Pilot Hank Chouteau) at, the 1977 Paris Air Show, as well as at NAS Oceana. The high-AoA pass that has been part and parcel of every F/A-18 flight demo I can recall seeing is shown here for good measure.

Of course, by this time the program had moved into another phase at this point, so the aircraft is referred to as the "F-18 Hornet prototype," and the film is entitled "F-18 Hornet Prototype - Odyssey 77."

YouTube: Periscope Film - Northrop F-18 Hornet prototype at Paris Air Show 1977 "ODYSSEY 1977" 81794


Interesting that that YC-15 has two different sized engines there at 3:49. Anybody know anything about that?
 
Interesting that that YC-15 has two different sized engines there at 3:49. Anybody know anything about that?

It is the first example of the CFM-56 to fly; in the number one position. CFM-56 was one of the two "10-tonne" engines proposed for production C-15A/B (the other being the Pratt JT10D).
 
Here is a Northrop promotional film posted yesterday (23-April-2020) to YouTube by Periscope Film.

The circa-1978 film depicts the YF-17 Cobra's trip to, and demonstration (flown by Test Pilot Hank Chouteau) at, the 1977 Paris Air Show, as well as at NAS Oceana. The high-AoA pass that has been part and parcel of every F/A-18 flight demo I can recall seeing is shown here for good measure.

Of course, by this time the program had moved into another phase at this point, so the aircraft is referred to as the "F-18 Hornet prototype," and the film is entitled "F-18 Hornet Prototype - Odyssey 77."

YouTube: Periscope Film - Northrop F-18 Hornet prototype at Paris Air Show 1977 "ODYSSEY 1977" 81794


Interesting that that YC-15 has two different sized engines there at 3:49. Anybody know anything about that?
Funny you should ask, in addition to aim9xray's post above, see post and video at the link below. Coincidentally, Periscope Film posted this YC-15 film about two weeks after the YF-17 film:
 
Anyone evercome across a YF-17 to F/A-18A drawing showing the size comparison?

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 
YF-17 cutaway. Interesting comparison to a similar drawing of the P-630 I posted in 2012, post 73 page 2.
Thanks for nice picture' sharing!
Note, how vertical stabilizier moves forward, in the process of fighter jets' developement :cool:
 
I have been scanning some old slides and came across some slides of the Yf-17that were being thrown in the trash when the F-18L was cancelled. They show some demonstration weapons loadouts for F-18A development. The earlier ones with the aircraft in silver paint are from 1975 while the camo paint is from March 1976. Here are the 1975 images
 

Attachments

  • IMAG0001.JPG
    IMAG0001.JPG
    2.4 MB · Views: 578
  • IMAG0002.JPG
    IMAG0002.JPG
    2.7 MB · Views: 392
  • IMAG0003.JPG
    IMAG0003.JPG
    2.7 MB · Views: 389
  • IMAG0004.JPG
    IMAG0004.JPG
    2.4 MB · Views: 373
  • IMAG0005.JPG
    IMAG0005.JPG
    2.7 MB · Views: 365
  • IMAG0006.JPG
    IMAG0006.JPG
    2.5 MB · Views: 375
  • IMAG0007.JPG
    IMAG0007.JPG
    2.4 MB · Views: 363
  • IMAG0008.JPG
    IMAG0008.JPG
    2.9 MB · Views: 358
  • IMAG0009.JPG
    IMAG0009.JPG
    2.9 MB · Views: 337
  • IMAG0010.JPG
    IMAG0010.JPG
    2.7 MB · Views: 335
  • IMAG0011.JPG
    IMAG0011.JPG
    2.7 MB · Views: 355
  • IMAG0012.JPG
    IMAG0012.JPG
    2.4 MB · Views: 359
  • IMAG0013.JPG
    IMAG0013.JPG
    2.7 MB · Views: 357
The 1976 Images are here; note tip-mounted AIM-7 Sparrows.
 

Attachments

  • IMAG0014.JPG
    IMAG0014.JPG
    2.9 MB · Views: 365
  • IMAG0015.JPG
    IMAG0015.JPG
    3 MB · Views: 355
  • IMAG0016.JPG
    IMAG0016.JPG
    3.4 MB · Views: 340
  • IMAG0017.JPG
    IMAG0017.JPG
    3.2 MB · Views: 356
  • IMAG0018.JPG
    IMAG0018.JPG
    3.5 MB · Views: 360
  • IMAG0019.JPG
    IMAG0019.JPG
    4 MB · Views: 373
  • IMAG0020.JPG
    IMAG0020.JPG
    2.8 MB · Views: 352
  • IMAG0021.JPG
    IMAG0021.JPG
    3.6 MB · Views: 331
  • IMAG0022.JPG
    IMAG0022.JPG
    3.2 MB · Views: 450
Belgian Air Staff specified their preference for the P-530 over the Lockheed Lancer & Mirage F.1 with GD's YF-16 not even in the running in 1973! Quite the reversal.

A US appraisal of the Dutch position. Major takeaways are concerns over J101 high development costs and irritation at French "hard sell tactics":
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Makes some sense, dassault was putting tremendous pressure in the fall of 1973 but Belgium had been passably irritated by the Mirage V sale of 1967, plus technically wise the Mirage F1 was already outdated... even with the M53.
I red somewhere the French (Dassault) proposed an Alphajet - F1 - Mercure (SABENA) package, but only the trainer carried the day.
 

Attachments

  • Capture.PNG
    Capture.PNG
    86.2 KB · Views: 304
Some more pictures from the Northrop P530 Advanced Tactical Fighter Mockup Review 1969.
 

Attachments

  • 5.jpg
    5.jpg
    561.9 KB · Views: 217
  • 4.jpg
    4.jpg
    413.3 KB · Views: 198
  • 3.jpg
    3.jpg
    329.6 KB · Views: 175
  • 2.jpg
    2.jpg
    315.9 KB · Views: 205
  • 1.jpg
    1.jpg
    318 KB · Views: 230
YF-17 and early F/A-18A are both in Mobile AL at the USS Alabama museum.

They are nearly identical in size and shape.
 

Similar threads

Please donate to support the forum.

Back
Top Bottom