NA-211, NA-212 - NAA projects from Sabre to F-107

hesham said:
Hi ReprobateJoeshmoe,

but in this thread everything you want,can you determine the question
exactly ?.

ReprobateJoeshmoe said:
Correct me if wrong but was there a drawing for a advanced super Sabre?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
In different thread a while back someone mentioned drawings of a advanced super Sabre. I was wondering if any body knew what it was called.
 
Hi
 

Attachments

  • img557.jpg
    img557.jpg
    648.6 KB · Views: 133
  • img558.jpg
    img558.jpg
    689.5 KB · Views: 70
  • img559.jpg
    img559.jpg
    606.2 KB · Views: 57
  • img562.jpg
    img562.jpg
    673.3 KB · Views: 63
  • img563.jpg
    img563.jpg
    903.3 KB · Views: 70
  • img583.jpg
    img583.jpg
    609.4 KB · Views: 76
  • img584.jpg
    img584.jpg
    623 KB · Views: 86
  • img587.jpg
    img587.jpg
    797.9 KB · Views: 94
  • img591.jpg
    img591.jpg
    843.5 KB · Views: 81
  • img592.jpg
    img592.jpg
    838.7 KB · Views: 74
hello,
I post here some pictures i published in le fana de l'aviation (i think that is the same article you posted, from Alexis Rocher). We added some whatif (thunderbirds and vietnam colors). I chose the 5508 airplane for the 3 views plan (sorry the 3 views plan does not appear as a thumbnail i don't know why).
 

Attachments

  • Plan 3 vues YF-107.jpg
    2 MB · Views: 42
  • Profil F-107 Thunderbirds final RVB.jpg
    Profil F-107 Thunderbirds final RVB.jpg
    500.1 KB · Views: 98
  • Profil F-107 vietnam final RVB.jpg
    Profil F-107 vietnam final RVB.jpg
    497.1 KB · Views: 102
NMaude said:
If the F-107A had gone into service (No doubt there would've been a two-seat TF-107A or F-107B too) I wonder how well it would've performed over North Vietnam?
Click to expand...
If it was designed for the same requirements as the F-105, I imagine its service would have broadly been similar. IIRC, the Thunderchief had survivability issues because of its hydraulic system, but I'm not sure if the shortcomings in that system were simply bad design, or if Republic had simply decided, when designing it, that if the F-105 was going to be flying nuclear strike missions in Western Europe at the start of ww3, why bother making it super durable for what is likely to be a one way mission? That seems like the sort of design consideration a lot of airplane manufacturers would have had to think about in that era, and I'm guessing North American wouldn't be an exception, and we can't just assume the F-107 would have been superior.

But even if NA made an inherently better designed plane (ie, there was nothing in the design of the hydraulics that would make it more susceptible to battle damage, it comes with self-sealing fuel tanks, etc.), we'd still be looking back at a supersonic nuclear strike aircraft making repeated conventional bombing runs along well established routes against an alert and well-prepared air defense system. Unless the F 107 was substantially faster or more heavily armored, I'm guessing it would have suffered similar casualty rates.
 
NMaude said:
If the F-107A had gone into service (No doubt there would've been a two-seat TF-107A or F-107B too) I wonder how well it would've performed over North Vietnam?
Click to expand...
The weak point of the century series aircraft that operated over Vietnam (a type of warfare for which they had not been designed) was the hydraulic circuits located on the underside of the aircraft, which were very vulnerable to small arms fire from the ground. I don't have access to the F-107 manual, but possibly its design followed the general tone with the aggravating factor that air intake was a death trap for the ejector seat.
 

Similar threads

Back
Top Bottom