McDonnell-Douglas Model 265 AFTI project

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

Sure looks like a McDonnell Douglas Model 265 design to me:

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Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Orionblamblam]

I'm certainly going to keep an eye on this. I suspect the price will shoot sky high, but if not...

 

[Triton]

Seller's description:

THIS MODEL WAS ACQUIRED BY SELLER IN THE LATE 1970S. AM NOT SURE BUT SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT IT LOOKED MUCH LIKE THE FAIRCHILD/REPUBLIC EARLY INPUT FOR AFTI. A SMALL MODEL IT MEASURES 8 INCHES LONG - 5 INCH SPAN. CONDITION REFLECTS THE FACT THAT IT HAS SPENT 40 YEARS PACKED AWAY. COLOR IS BLUE. ABOUT AS NICE A MODEL YOU WILL FIND. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANOTHER.

THIS MODEL IS FOR THE SERIOUS COLLECTOR.

OVERSEAS BIDDERS WELCOME - JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU BID.

BEST TO ALL GOOD HUNTING.

 

[Sundog]

I would love to own that, but it's already more than I can afford and it's just starting. Good luck Scott.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

There are also some collectors on the forum who might buy this.

 

[Orionblamblam]

There are also some collectors on the forum who might buy this.

I don't doubt it. Grrr.....

 

[Triton]

There are also some collectors on the forum who might buy this.

Let's hope that he or she will be generous and share photographs of it.

 

[yasotay]

Not VTOL... all yours Scott ;D

 

[Orionblamblam]

Damn.

 

[Triton]

Winning bid $213.61

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

Something Overscan may want to acquire - appears to be the Model 265

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Desktop-Promo-Demo-Model-USAF-AF-T1-/220945769541?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337164e445

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Triton]

Model of McDonnell Douglas Model 265.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

We had a work party at the Museum this past Saturday and in the process, uncovered a few things which will show up here in due course. First off, this three view with internal layouts. of the Model 265-1.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[RAP]

Great! Thank you. Can't wait to see what other treats you dug up.

 

[allysonca]

Just a little update on the model floating around here. It was made by Marketing Aids back in the 70's. I remember going into the shop in Anaheim and seeing a table full of them ready for packing. After a lot of begging and groveling I acquired one from my friend Al Parker who was a partner there with the promise of sworn secrecy. Solid cast resin, and minimal detail, I was thrilled to add it to my growing collection. My biggest complaint was that it was a tiny thing at about 6 or 7 inches in length if I recall and was traded off years later for something bigger.

 

[ScrutorAudax]

I found this.

 

[hesham]

Nice find Scrutor.

 

[Motocar]

Ready the especulative cutaway drawing McDonnell Douglas AFTI 265

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23005.msg333572.html#new

 

[hesham]

Great work my dear Motocar.

 

[allysonca]

Just wanted to let everyone know on this subject that the model depicted here several times was made by Marketing Aids, the outside Douglas model shop in Anaheim back in the early 70's. My friend Al Parker was a partner there and I was in the shop while they were making these. I wanted one badly of course, but they were proprietary and I had to wait a number of years to acquire one for the collection. My only complaint was that it was tiny.... like about 7-8 inches or so and would get lost on the shelf. Now if it were a 20th or even a 40th scale it would have been magnificent. Maybe I'll carve one some day......... As you may have seen I do my own "box" scale where the model has a 26-inch wingspan or so. Having such a short wing the fuselage would be the decider at around 20-22 inches I suspect.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Good Day All -

Found these in a collection from an early Museum member/founder.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Boxman]

US Air Force Systems Command film report featuring a segment on the Vectored Lift Fighter (VLF), beginning at the 5min 5sec-mark. In fact, one of the models featured (at the 5min 15 sec mark) is virtually identical to the one posted by Triton in this topic on February 11, 2012.

YouTube: Charlie Dean Archives - "Air Force Systems Command (AFSC) Staff Film Report - Number 288 / AVR 248 (1980)"

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Nice find Boxman - thanks! Mark

 

[flateric]

Artist concept (an alternate scan from NARA)

 

[Manuducati]

I just saw this on Facebook.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

I just saw this on Facebook.

Where? Nice angle

 

[Manuducati]

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[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1973.

 

[Orionblamblam]

I just saw this on Facebook.

That has now been purchased. High-rez scanning to follow.

 

[Orionblamblam]

Greetings All -

Here's some McAir artwork to go along with the Vectored Lift Fighter concept....

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Having now examined the actual painting (xD4C-73862 Jun-70.jpg), notations around the border indicate that it was originally painted with US Navy markings.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

Here's some McAir artwork to go along with the Vectored Lift Fighter concept....

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Having now examined the actual painting (xD4C-73862 Jun-70.jpg), notations around the border indicate that it was originally painted with US Navy markings.

Interesting as the Navy was in on the X-31, USAF no where to be found.....

Thanks Scott - Mark

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Good Day All -

I found some more artwork over at the Greater St. Louis Air & Space Museum that is worth sharing.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

This design is called "Paul Czysz's Cannon-Fighter" by the Combat Reform website, supposedly armed with large caliber guns.

 

[jsport]

Looks like a variable incidence wing to me, allowing the fuselage with the gun to be
pointed downwards, while the aircraft is still in level flight.

Importantly also the varible incidence wing allows the fuselage to be raised for indirect fire large calibre gun shots.

 

[jsport]

The side by side appears to have a FLIR/LD ball under the fuselage which would also enable PGM use for battlefield air interdiction roles.

Cool! Seems to be a two seat close air support design using Model 265 aerodynamics.

It’s a quirky looker and that big flat belly and offset intakes could make for an easy evolution into a low RCS strike aircraft. The side by side appears to have a FLIR/LD ball under the fuselage which would also enable PGM use for battlefield air interdiction roles.

..would postulate the ball under the fuselage could well be not only a sensor but a minigun and or 40mm AGL turret which would stable enough for accurate fire based on the varible incidence wing & canard ie Vectored Flight Control (VFC).

 

[Scott Kenny]

J85 engines? man, that's going to be tiny, F-5 size or so.

The variable incidence wings are interesting.

 

[hesham]

Good Day All -

I found some more artwork over at the Greater St. Louis Air & Space Museum that is worth sharing.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Hi,

Cannon-Fighter: More Shots, More Kills--at Less Cost

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Some more artwork thanks to the Gerry Balzer collection.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[jsport]

Some more artwork thanks to the Gerry Balzer collection.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Thank you Mark NanKivil, as 2483 seems to allude to some sort of cannon fighter config.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Agreed - much like the artwork in #72 of this thread...

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[bercr]

Some more artwork thanks to the Gerry Balzer collection.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Thank you Mark.
It's not complicated, I like everything from Gerry Balzer's collection.