- Joined
- 27 December 2005
- Messages
- 16,888
- Reaction score
- 21,589
He is only one person.
KJ, the differences were less and less. Originally an attack airplane would have used guns and rockets at a rather low altitude, while light bombers would have used bombs from a medium to high altitude. With the rise in weight carrying capabilities of attack planes and fighter-bombers, the difference waned. During the mid-to-late fifties bombers were supposed to attack fixed targets removed from the front (railway nodes, large airports, harbours), while attack planes would have targeted near the front. Nuclear weapons rendered the picture still more murky: a solitary F-105 with a 100 kton tactical bomb on Kronstadt would have made little different from a B-66 in the same mission...
More or less, yes, but using the F- designation (fighter-bomber). Remember that the first USAF A- designation plane was the A-7, and the first newly designed USAF attack planes were the A-9/A-10 couple.... The Navy history is different, the attack role included the bomber role.
Skybolt said:And TB (Torpedo Bomber) too.
Orionblamblam said:Sheesh. Woulda thought this'd generate more chatter.
They're in awe, Scott.
robunos said:Am i right to assume then , that both the 'B-68', and 'Model 316' images are separate iterations of the same design,
Orionblamblam said:Hey, neat. Martin built a full-scale metal mockup of the B-68/Model 316.
Here's two interesting images re Martin's proposed XB-68 Tactical Bomber; Model 316.
Credit Glenn L. Martin Air Museum
oh, really ? So, show me the other competitors, say the NAA one, a bautiful design, with a Vigilante flavouir but sleeker and even more elegant, in my opinion. Or the three different Douglas submissions.... or the too-late Boeing one (no, not the patent of the early configuration, the definitive one...). I've seen them, so it is all really relative. And what about the three-engined delta Lloyd Jones published a lot of time ago ? Mysteries are not finished until they are finished....The XB-68 program is definitely no mystery anymore, and it's thanks to all of you guys. Thank you so much for the treat!
Skybolt said:oh, really ? So, show me the other competitors, say the NAA one, a bautiful design, with a Vigilante flavouir but sleeker and even more elegant, in my opinion. Or the three different Douglas submissions.... or the too-late Boeing one (no, not the patent of the early configuration, the definitive one...). I've seen them, so it is all really relative. And what about the three-engined delta Lloyd Jones published a lot of time ago ? Mysteries are not finished until they are finished....The XB-68 program is definitely no mystery anymore, and it's thanks to all of you guys. Thank you so much for the treat!
Skybolt said:Not overreacting, only having fun...
And, seriously, that piece of story is really in the dark. Talking about the Martin WS-302A, I have reason to believe that the Model 316 wasn't the end of the line, that there were further evolution, both inside and outside the TBX and WS-302A frame, before the entire Supersonic Tactical Bomber concept was shelved in favour of low altitude souped up Fighter Bombers or Strike Aircrafts, which happened only in 1959, when General Lauris Norstad, SHAPE, decided that the long range theater nuclear strike mission would have been left to missiles, and this was the origin of MMRBM, and the rest taken up by strike aircrafts (SDR-17 and later TFX). BTW, the Super Hustler concept, in the ZEL mode, was intended as a highly supersonic tactical bomber for theater operation. In a certain Convair document a Super Hustler is even shown with Luftwaffe markings....