Kriegsmarine - KM Ship Plans/Discussion

[lukasgrul]

Here is my drawing of H-40B. Can you tell me if I should add or improve something in it? I feel like I made some mistakes

 

[Tzoli]

Try adding details, like some ropes, cables, antennas, capstans, winches, bitts and fairleads, anchors, boats etc

 

[lukasgrul]

Try adding details, like some ropes, cables, antennas, capstans, winches, bitts and fairleads, anchors, boats etc

Thank you very much

 

[lukasgrul]

Do you have blueprints of cranes used on Kriegsmarine battleships?

 

[Tzoli]

I have plans of a few kms ships and books about them

 

[goofygoober20000]

Very interesting...

 

[Tzoli]

So... the German Midway?

 

[goofygoober20000]

Seems to be, but my question is how were they supposed to place those twenty 127mm? They definitely would put 5 or 6 next to the bridge but what about the rest?

 

[Tzoli]

I think that is 20 barrels eg 10 twin mount so the rest would be on sponsons, or a single barrel mount was considered

 

[goofygoober20000]

I think it could have been a SK C/34 (the only 127mm in kriegsmarine) or a completely different design

 

[MrMemerMan]

Very interesting...View attachment 758364

Is there anymore information about this?

 

[Force Lord]

Is there anymore information about this?

Unfortunately no. At least, not published. If there's anything in the Kriegsmarine archives it's probably not yet digitized in Invenio.

 

[MrMemerMan]

Unfortunately no. At least, not published. If there's anything in the Kriegsmarine archives it's probably not yet digitized in Invenio.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say armor wise, it probably was similar to the A-III C variant, or anything of the A series.

 

[Force Lord]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say armor wise, it probably was similar to the A-III C variant, or anything of the A series.

Whitley actually mentions that the German aircraft cruisers had variants that were pure carriers, however he gives no outlines of these versions.

 

[MrMemerMan]

Whitley actually mentions that the German aircraft cruisers had variants that were pure carriers, however he gives no outlines of these versions.

Only time will tell.

 

[alexi]

At least there's one 20000t flight deck carrier cruiser variant has been scanned for years now.

 

[YourChair]

I think it could have been a SK C/34 (the only 127mm in kriegsmarine) or a completely different design

The passage outright calls them "DP guns", so assumedly the author is not referring to the standard C/34 guns in SP mountings.
Of course, this doesn't narrow it down at all: this could be the LM/41 twin mounting for the DDs (although that one is only 52 degrees max elevation -- perhaps a different version would reach 70 degrees, as I recall the single mount did?)
It could also be the KM 40 (128/61), or the "12.7cm Doppelflak" whose documents are is in the weaponry folder.

(The fact they are called "127mm" in the passage is probably just a designation quirk, the same as British 113mm guns being called "114mm", and German 149mm guns being called "150mm".)

 

[Grey Havoc]

Very interesting...

So they were looking at what was effectively (in some respects at least) a Battlecarrier design though the alternate interpretation of it being a German equivalent to the Midway-class has merit as well, along with a 'Flight-deck cruiser' design, both for use in a post-war period following what was still then seen as a inevitable Axis victory.