Kawasaki P-X (P-1) and C-X (C-2)

The Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare), in coordination with the Italian Navy (Marina Militare), seems to have chosen the Japanese Kawasaki P-1 as its preferred option for a new maritime patrol aircraft (MPA), a purpose-built platform designed for long-range and persistent surveillance missions.
This could open the acquisition of the M-346 Master by Japanese Self Defence Forces.

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Italy could choose Japanese Kawasaki P-1 maritime patrol aircraft to fill critical anti-submarine warfare gap

Italy could choose Japanese Kawasaki P-1 maritime patrol aircraft to fill critical anti-submarine warfare gap
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TomcatViP said:
If true that is an awesome news. Combat redundancy with 4 engines would probably be better suited over the Med where pocket devoids of long range search radars or contested airspace are dwindling.
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There's a slim chance of this happening, but the Turkish Navy has always wanted to procure a long-range jet MPA. They haven't acted on this because, well, the only option on the market right now comes from a troublesome country, and integration of local equipment is improbable.


Plus, there's a higher chance of getting approval to swap Japanese/European sensors and weapons with Turkish ones, and Turkish Naval Aviation has already established a strong collaboration with Italy and Leonardo based on the long-delayed ATR-72-600MPA. So, if Italy does procure and integrate local equipment, this could serve as a springboard for a sale to Turkey as well.

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I think what I've said in the post below still stands: this solution is easier, cheaper, and all-around better than coming up with a time-consuming, costly indigenous alternative based on the Global 6000.

snne said:
Turkish Navy has been eyeing the P-8 for over a decade with great interest but they haven't made a move thinking they won't be able get the FMS approval or pass it through the Congress. A purchase of the A320MPA by the Turkish Navy would be nigh impossible considering EU-Turkish relations but it seems like If France & Germany were to keep it cool, this could be the only long ranged MPA option the Navy could demand and the local industry is too busy with current projects at hand to develop an equivalent anyway (and if they were to develop one, it would highly likely be based on the Global 6000 - meaning it doesn't cover the same mission role as the P-8 or A320MPA).

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Good choice. One merit of dedicated airframe for MPA or antisubmarine aircraft is one can devote the structure for frequent low flying and maneuvering.

Apparently optimum use for MAD is to fly relatively low, this helps with sensitivity issue with MAD (Magnetic Anomaly Detector) which have no directivity (means unlike radar which the emmission can be aimed, MAD doesnt) Low flying is something hated by commercial airframes like P-8.
 
stealthflanker said:
Good choice. One merit of dedicated airframe for MPA or antisubmarine aircraft is one can devote the structure for frequent low flying and maneuvering.

Apparently optimum use for MAD is to fly relatively low, this helps with sensitivity issue with MAD (Magnetic Anomaly Detector) which have no directivity (means unlike radar which the emmission can be aimed, MAD doesnt) Low flying is something hated by commercial airframes like P-8.
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Whole point of P-8 is medium/high altitude search, though.
 
I take it that means that Italy is the launch customer for the P-1? Well done.
 
I would take that news with a grain of salt. I think it came from that 1 italian dude who also said that the norwegian and german navy choose Black Shark for Type 212CD we're (as far as other reports go) they only decided to integreate it into the CMS suite which is supposed to find larger applications outside of 212CD.
 
I wonder if it can make the french reconsider their development of the A321 MPA.
Cheaper to integrate the CMS Suite they want in a already existing platform.
 

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