Ing. Campini projects

[nuuumannn]

Currently the most ancient (almost) jet-powered of the World, since the previous He-178 was destroyed during wartime.

Yes indeed, the Gloster E.28/39 is on display in the Science Museum in London, which flew in 1941, which would count as the next oldest after the C.C.2. The He 178 and I believe He 176 rocket powered aircraft were both destroyed in the Deutsches Luftfahrt Sammlung museum in the heart of Berlin. It was burned out in an air raid in 1943. Needless to say the RAF were not invited back again...

 

[Foo Fighter]

Pictures of the very impressive C.C.2. Aside from the terrific information that our friend Skybolt has placed here for us, this dual language book is well worth seeking out for further detail.

Campini Caproni: The History and the Technical Development of the First Italian Jet Aircraft (Aviolibri Dossier): Bettiolo, Roberto. Marcozzi, Giancarlo.: 9788875650568: Amazon.com: Books

Campini Caproni: The History and the Technical Development of the First Italian Jet Aircraft (Aviolibri Dossier) [Bettiolo, Roberto. Marcozzi, Giancarlo.] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Campini Caproni: The History and the Technical Development of the First Italian Jet...

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Currently the most ancient (almost) jet-powered of the World, since the previous He-178 was destroyed during wartime.

I keep hoping that a flying replica can be built, we need to keep our heritage alive.

 

[Airborne2001]

This is the DB609

Well, it is true that the DB-609 has a similar shape, but it is a monster 293.5 m long and the engine in the drawing of the Re 2005 R cannot be more than 227 cm.
You may calcualte that comparing the size of the engine with the pilot seat and the length of the canopy, that are both known.
The cannon length may also serve as a refernce.

I understand your reasons. Please see the similiraty in the attached drawing.

May I ask what aircraft that is? (Or is it just a concept for the engine?)

 

[Justo Miranda]

Heinkel P.1076

 

[Airborne2001]

Does anyone have a timeline for the Campini CS.10? I am curious about when it was first designed, submitted, and then worked on.

 

[hesham]

In the already mentioned Ing.Campini 1948 article (first after 10 years...) I found this 1940 project for a twin-engine motoreattore plane. Data are: wingspan 18,8 m; wing surface 48 sqm; wing loading 175 Kg/sqm; take-off run 500 m; range at 10000 m 3000 km, cruise speed at 10000 m 750 KM/h; max speed at 10000 m 1050 KM. The last two are most improbable, expecially the max speed (aerodinamically the plane is very conservative and I don't think possible for itto reach transonic speeds...). The motoreattori were to be driven by 1350 HP engines (a couple of Piaggio ?). Campini said he was thinking of developing (he said: I started developing, um, um, um, Ing., don't even try to make us believe it...) a 3000 HP-equivalent gas-turbine fror this aircraft, hoping to reach 950 KM/h cruise speed and 1250 (supersonic....) at 10000 m. Well, forget about it.

From, I beni storico-aeronautici nel contesto del patrimonio culturale.

 

[Temistocle]

Some original drawings taken from the British document "Caproni - Campini aircraft and allied developments in Italy" (full text here, very interesting):

 

[klem]

Hi all.
I found this document !
Who know more on all this Campini projects
Thanks

It's in the book : La Propulsione a reazione in italia dalle origini al 1943-Aeronautica Militare-Giuseppe Ciampaglia.

 

[hesham]

From Aero Digest 1939.

 

[zanenobbs]

The International Resin Modellers Association presents our IRMA Kit No.11 Campini-Caproni CC.7 (CS.11) Toscana motorjet bomber of WWII. Designed in 1942 the Toscano was powered by the same type of motors as the Campini-Caproni CC.2 (N.1) of 1940. Work was scheduled to begin until Italy reached an armistice with the Allies in 1943, however, with the establishment of the Italian Social Republic later that year, the design once more was front and center for the Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana (Italian Social Air Force) to continue the fight with the Axis. Work was commenced to continue with the design, however, by 1945 it was abandoned with the fall of Nazi Germany and the Italian Social Republic.
We present this kit in 1/72 with 32 resin parts including clear resin for the canopy and windows, along with interior details and metal parts for landing gear and other details. The model can be built with rotating wheels and comes with decals to create a version for the Regina Aeronautica (Royal Italian Air Force) or Aeronatucia Nazionale Repubblicana. This kit is completed in an experimental camouflage of 1944-1945.
If you are interested in a kit, we have them for US $190 + shipping, or US $160 + shipping with an IRMA Membership. The model is about the size of a B-25 Mitchell and only 30 kits have been made for the current run. It does require Super Glue to assemble, or Super Gel to add additional time for positioning parts. Not recommended for young children. To get yours, contact us at info@internationalresinmodellers.com providing your name, shipping address, email, and telephone number so we can calculate shipping costs.
Next kits are: IRMA Kit No.12 SNCASO SO.4000 French jet bomber, IRMA Kit No.13 PZL TS-16 Polish jet fighter, and Schmid SC-28 Wolke German motorized ornithopter of WWII.
Dimensions:
Wingspan: 61'8" (18.8 m)
Length: 47'10" (14.6 m)
Height: 15'5" (4.7 m)
Weight: 18,518 lbs (8,400 kg)
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 650 mph (1,050 kph)
Cruise Speed: 460 mph (750 kph)
Range: 1,864 miles (3,000 km)
Take-Off Run: 1,640'5" (500 m)
Power:
Two Campini Motorjets in the wings driven by two Isotta Fraschini L.121/R.C.40 piston engines in the fuselage providing 1,350 hp (102,695 kg-m/s)/2,500 lbs (1,134 kgs) of thrust
Crew:
Four: Pilot, Co-Pilot/Navigator, Bombardier/Belly Gunner, Tail-Gunner
Armament:
Four 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Isotta-Fraschini Scotti machine guns in nose firing forward
Two 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Isotta-Fraschini Scotti machine guns in belly turret, rotating
Two 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Isotta-Fraschini Scotti machine guns in top turret, one forward, one rearward
3,000 lbs (1,360 kgs) of bombs or 1x torpedo

 

[TsrJoe]

Looks good

 

[Airborne2001]

The International Resin Modellers Association presents our IRMA Kit No.11 Campini-Caproni CC.7 (CS.11) Toscana motorjet bomber of WWII. Designed in 1942 the Toscano was powered by the same type of motors as the Campini-Caproni CC.2 (N.1) of 1940. Work was scheduled to begin until Italy reached an armistice with the Allies in 1943, however, with the establishment of the Italian Social Republic later that year, the design once more was front and center for the Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana (Italian Social Air Force) to continue the fight with the Axis. Work was commenced to continue with the design, however, by 1945 it was abandoned with the fall of Nazi Germany and the Italian Social Republic.
We present this kit in 1/72 with 32 resin parts including clear resin for the canopy and windows, along with interior details and metal parts for landing gear and other details. The model can be built with rotating wheels and comes with decals to create a version for the Regina Aeronautica (Royal Italian Air Force) or Aeronatucia Nazionale Repubblicana. This kit is completed in an experimental camouflage of 1944-1945.
If you are interested in a kit, we have them for US $190 + shipping, or US $160 + shipping with an IRMA Membership. The model is about the size of a B-25 Mitchell and only 30 kits have been made for the current run. It does require Super Glue to assemble, or Super Gel to add additional time for positioning parts. Not recommended for young children. To get yours, contact us at info@internationalresinmodellers.com providing your name, shipping address, email, and telephone number so we can calculate shipping costs.
Next kits are: IRMA Kit No.12 SNCASO SO.4000 French jet bomber, IRMA Kit No.13 PZL TS-16 Polish jet fighter, and Schmid SC-28 Wolke German motorized ornithopter of WWII.
Dimensions:
Wingspan: 61'8" (18.8 m)
Length: 47'10" (14.6 m)
Height: 15'5" (4.7 m)
Weight: 18,518 lbs (8,400 kg)
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 650 mph (1,050 kph)
Cruise Speed: 460 mph (750 kph)
Range: 1,864 miles (3,000 km)
Take-Off Run: 1,640'5" (500 m)
Power:
Two Campini Motorjets in the wings driven by two Isotta Fraschini L.121/R.C.40 piston engines in the fuselage providing 1,350 hp (102,695 kg-m/s)/2,500 lbs (1,134 kgs) of thrust
Crew:
Four: Pilot, Co-Pilot/Navigator, Bombardier/Belly Gunner, Tail-Gunner
Armament:
Four 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Isotta-Fraschini Scotti machine guns in nose firing forward
Two 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Isotta-Fraschini Scotti machine guns in belly turret, rotating
Two 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Isotta-Fraschini Scotti machine guns in top turret, one forward, one rearward
3,000 lbs (1,360 kgs) of bombs or 1x torpedo

This is awesome! Thank you!

 

[zanenobbs]

A bit more on IRMA Kit No.11 C.C.7 (C.S.11) Toscana - Here is a photo of the parts with numbers as well as how the interior can be finished. NOTE: Pilots are NOT included in this kit. Pilots in the tan uniforms are Regia Aeronautica (Royal Italian Air Force) 1940-1943 in which Italy supplied their own uniforms and equipment. Pilots in gray uniforms are from the Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana (Italian Social Republic Air Force) 1943-1945 modeled on the Luftwaffe of Germany, often supplied by Germany. If you wish to have pilots for your model, these can be found on Shapeways,.com. Also, if a more sturdy tail wheel gear is desired, this can be found from Metallic Details He-111 Tail Support (MDR 7247). As is typical of many resin kits, additional details can be created using brass tubing for guns and wire for the aerial, pitot tube, and wheel axles.

 

[Grey Havoc]

Regarding the Caproni Campini N.1:

Caproni Campini N.1: First things, first.

I noticed the other day that, as usual, I’d put the cart before the horse when I wrote about Secondo Campini’s motoreattore work. I should have started with his N.1 instead, the aircraf…

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[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[Apophenia]

Rather than Campini, credit for the Re.2005 R concept should really go to maggiore Antonio Ferri from the Direzione Superiore Studi ed Esperienze at Guidonia (along with fellow 'Guidoniani', Marcello Sarracino) - hence the alternative designation, Re.2005 SF (for Sarracino/Ferri).

Initial Re.2005 R development was prompted by magg. Ferri while still at Guidonia. The D.S.S.E. was a directorate of the Ministero dell'Aeronautica - which gave Ferri its full support for this project. Other work by magg. Ferri at Guidonia had been on high-speed propellers, Reynolds numbers, and prompting the construction of a trans-sonic wind tunnel at D.S.S.E. Much of that knowledge went into the Re.2005 R (including purportedly 'perfecting' the motorjet concept for higher-speed flight).

It was Regianne which resisted the excessive airframe changes and weight penalties of the proposed Re.2005 R modifications. After WW2, NACA published Ferri's 'Complete Tabulation in the United States of Tests of 24 Airfoils at High Mach Numbers (Derived from Interrupted Work at Guidonia, Italy in the 1.31- by 1.74-Foot High-Speed Tunnel).'

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOPvYKJ95mI

 

[blackkite]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6381HGAegG0

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Caproni N.1(cc.2).

caproni-campini-cc-2

ww2aircraft.net

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/18vol46/the_campinicaproni_cc2_a_pistonpowered_jet

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