IAI Arrow 3

[Forest Green]

How come Arrow 3 ($3.5m) is so much cheaper than SM-3 IIA?

 

[Dilandu]

How come Arrow 3 ($3.5m) is so much cheaper than SM-3 IIA?

Non-naval, presumably, designed for more specific conditions.

 

[sferrin]

How come Arrow 3 ($3.5m) is so much cheaper than SM-3 IIA?

It's smaller, much less complex, and much less capable.

 

[Moose]

Arrow 3, people, discuss it or take the discussion elsewhere.

 

[NMaude]

Is there any indication yet as to how many Arrow 3s the IDF fired at Iranian ballistic missiles?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Removed non-Arrow 3 posts.

 

[Scott Kenny]

Is there any indication yet as to how many Arrow 3s the IDF fired at Iranian ballistic missiles?

I'd assume 1 for 1, but we know what assuming means.

 

[Forest Green]

Is there any indication yet as to how many Arrow 3s the IDF fired at Iranian ballistic missiles?

This is a good point. Based on the fact there were 120 BMs, 36 CMs and 185 drones, that's only 341 objects total. If an Arrow 3 costs $3.5m, then unless an Arrow 3 was fired at every single once of them, these estimates of $1-1.3bn do not hold water. Even if an Arrow 3 was used on every BM, that's $420m, and assuming a David's Sling ($1m) for the other 221 missiles/drones, that's only $640m. And we know some drones were shot down with APKWS and Sidewinder outside Israel. So the total cost was likely nearer $500m.

Now given that Iran used 50 MRBMs, plus 70 SRBMs, plus 36 CMs and 185 large drones, what's the bet that cost something similar? And last I looked Israel's GDP is ~25% higher than Iran's.

From another thread (source @Grey Havoc )

Former financial advisor to the IDF Chief of General Staff estimates a cost of about 4-5 billion NIS, or 1-1.3 billion USD.

https://www.ynet.co.il/economy/article/rkl6kwygr

This is not sustainable. This is 5% of the IDF's annual budget spent in one night.

A single David's Sling missile costs $1 million. A single Arrow costs $3.5 million without specifying the variant (likely Arrow 2).

He estimates the cost for Iran was about 10% of that.

 

[Forest Green]

Israel’s IAI plugging away at German Arrow-3 order amid Gaza war

The defense company has surged its workforce to keep German plans on track of fielding one Arrow-3 installation in eastern Germany before 2026.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Scott Kenny]

This is a good point. Based on the fact there were 120 BMs, 36 CMs and 185 drones, that's only 341 objects total. If an Arrow 3 costs $3.5m, then unless an Arrow 3 was fired at every single once of them, these estimates of $1-1.3bn do not hold water. Even if an Arrow 3 was used on every BM, that's $420m, and assuming a David's Sling ($1m) for the other 221 missiles/drones, that's only $640m. And we know some drones were shot down with APKWS and Sidewinder outside Israel. So the total cost was likely nearer $500m.

Now given that Iran used 50 MRBMs, plus 70 SRBMs, plus 36 CMs and 185 large drones, what's the bet that cost something similar? And last I looked Israel's GDP is ~25% higher than Iran's.

Plus, Israel has options for international sourcing of components that Iran doesn't. Or, if Iran does, has to spend a lot more for them due to needing to smuggle them in. I've heard that the markup on smuggled goods is usually upwards of 200%.

 

[NMaude]

Or, if Iran does, has to spend a lot more for them due to needing to smuggle them in.

Not to mention that the smuggled items are of questionable providence.

 

[Forest Green]

It's not the first such intercept like the Tweet claims but nevertheless a good video.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843630756448354359

View: https://x.com/UKikaski/status/1843630756448354359