Hongdu Aircraft & Projects

[hesham]

Hi,

here is a drawing to Hongdu L-15 single seat light attack version appeared in the January 2008 issue
of the Chinese magazine Shipborne Weapons.

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[archipeppe]

Seen from the top it shows some striking resemblance with the Northrop F-5E....

 

[hesham]

From Krila 5/1987,

here is early drawing to L-8 or JL-8.

 

[iPhone6Minus]

Hi! This is Y-6, a domestic built version of Il-14 with 1m longer fuselage by 320 Factory (aka Hongdu). It cancelled in June, 1967.

 

[Jason Dykstra (Wyvern)]

Why was it cancelled? Do you have more information about this type?

 

[iPhone6Minus]

Why was it cancelled? Do you have more information about this type?

If you are talking about Y-6, the Third Ministry of Machine Building wanted to concentrate resources on Y-7.

 

[hesham]

Very nice IPhone6Minus,

and there was also L-11,it was a variant of JL-8 powered by the WS-11 turbofan (Ivchenko AI-25 TLK
produced under license in China). Approximately 100 aircraft delivered to PLAAF.

 

[Maveric]

Hi iPhone6Minus,

thx for sharing this nice project. Do you have more technical informations?

 

[iPhone6Minus]

Hi iPhone6Minus,

thx for sharing this nice project. Do you have more technical informations?

crew: 5
capacity: 32 passenger
length: 23.3m
height: 7.8m
wingspan: 31.7m
wing area: 100m^3
empty weight: 12,500kg
maximum takeoff weight: 18,000kg
maximum landing weight: 17,500kg
maximum load: 2,500kg
powerplant: 2×HS-8A, 1900hp each
propellers: 4 blade propeller with 3.8m diameter
maximum speed: 416km/h (2400m)
cruise speed: 268km/h
service ceiling: 7500m
range: 2,090km (7h 40min)
takeoff distance: 470m
landing distance: 430m
ref: Encyclopaedia of Chinese Aircraft (Vol.3) by Aviation Industry Press

 

[Maveric]

Thank you again

 

[hesham]

From Air Force 1990/5.

 

[hesham]

From Air Force 2001/10.

 

[hesham]

The L-15 is known also as JL-10.

 

[RavenOne]

I saw it on static at Dubai Air Show the other weekend so here are my photos,

cheers

 

[BullpupRafale]

It seems to me all they have shown from these images are air to ground missiles and PGMs...

 

[helmutkohl]

UAE to order Chinese aircraft as it diversifies suppliers

Defence ministry says it intends to sign a contract to buy a dozen of the training and light combat aircraft.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[alberchico]

UAE to buy a dozen Chinese L-15 trainer aircraft

UAE Air Force Col. Abdulnaser Al Humeidi revealed the country’s intent to buy the fixed-winged Chinese aircraft, with the possibility of increasing the quantity to 36.

www.defensenews.com

Considering that this aircraft relies on Ukrainian engines, does this mean that the order will be cancelled ?

This really affects China as well with their large fleet of L-15 trainers. It's obvious that the supply of engines for this aircraft is going to be severely interrupted, if not cut off entirely. The article below claims there is a Chinese powerplant available but is still in testing. Does anyone have any more info on how soon a Chinese engine can be retrofitted to this design ?

UAE Looks to China for Advanced Trainers | AIN

The United Arab Emirates appears set to buy the Chinese Hongdu L-15 to answer its advanced and fighter lead-in training requirements.

www.ainonline.com

 

[GTX]

Think about it. After this conflict, the American taxpayers will be paying for the bulk of the Ukrainian national budget and rebuilding effort!

Based upon what?!

 

[BullpupRafale]

UAE to buy a dozen Chinese L-15 trainer aircraft

UAE Air Force Col. Abdulnaser Al Humeidi revealed the country’s intent to buy the fixed-winged Chinese aircraft, with the possibility of increasing the quantity to 36.

www.defensenews.com

Considering that this aircraft relies on Ukrainian engines, does this mean that the order will be cancelled ?

This really affects China as well with their large fleet of L-15 trainers. It's obvious that the supply of engines for this aircraft is going to be severely interrupted, if not cut off entirely. The article below claims there is a Chinese powerplant available but is still in testing. Does anyone have any more info on how soon a Chinese engine can be retrofitted to this design ?

UAE Looks to China for Advanced Trainers | AIN

The United Arab Emirates appears set to buy the Chinese Hongdu L-15 to answer its advanced and fighter lead-in training requirements.

www.ainonline.com

Russia also produces very same engine used in L15. Nothing changed.

 

[BullpupRafale]

UAE to buy a dozen Chinese L-15 trainer aircraft

UAE Air Force Col. Abdulnaser Al Humeidi revealed the country’s intent to buy the fixed-winged Chinese aircraft, with the possibility of increasing the quantity to 36.

www.defensenews.com

Considering that this aircraft relies on Ukrainian engines, does this mean that the order will be cancelled ?

This really affects China as well with their large fleet of L-15 trainers. It's obvious that the supply of engines for this aircraft is going to be severely interrupted, if not cut off entirely. The article below claims there is a Chinese powerplant available but is still in testing. Does anyone have any more info on how soon a Chinese engine can be retrofitted to this design ?

UAE Looks to China for Advanced Trainers | AIN

The United Arab Emirates appears set to buy the Chinese Hongdu L-15 to answer its advanced and fighter lead-in training requirements.

www.ainonline.com

Russia also produces very same engine used in L15. Nothing changed.

I not sure if the Slovak DV-2 or Russian RD-35 version is currently available with an afterburner? Early L-15s used a dry thrust DV-2. Also, will Slovakia still supply the Chinese?

L15 is using AL-222-25 turbofan engine, that is one that has afterburning and allows L15 to reach maximum speed of Mach 1.4 ...

Russia has been producing that engine entirely in-house since 2015.

Двигатели для Як-130 начали производить без украинских деталей | Еженедельник «Военно-промышленный курьер»

Научно-производственный центр газотурбостроения «Салют» освоил полный цикл производства и начал поставки авиастроителям авиадвигателей АИ-222-25 для учебно-боевых самолетов Як-130, сообщает Интерфакс-АВН со ссылкой на руководителя пресс-службы предприятия Оксану Бабинцеву

vpk-news.ru

 

[BullpupRafale]

UAE to buy a dozen Chinese L-15 trainer aircraft

UAE Air Force Col. Abdulnaser Al Humeidi revealed the country’s intent to buy the fixed-winged Chinese aircraft, with the possibility of increasing the quantity to 36.

www.defensenews.com

Considering that this aircraft relies on Ukrainian engines, does this mean that the order will be cancelled ?

This really affects China as well with their large fleet of L-15 trainers. It's obvious that the supply of engines for this aircraft is going to be severely interrupted, if not cut off entirely. The article below claims there is a Chinese powerplant available but is still in testing. Does anyone have any more info on how soon a Chinese engine can be retrofitted to this design ?

UAE Looks to China for Advanced Trainers | AIN

The United Arab Emirates appears set to buy the Chinese Hongdu L-15 to answer its advanced and fighter lead-in training requirements.

www.ainonline.com

Russia also produces very same engine used in L15. Nothing changed.

I not sure if the Slovak DV-2 or Russian RD-35 version is currently available with an afterburner? Early L-15s used a dry thrust DV-2. Also, will Slovakia still supply the Chinese?

L15 is using AL-222-25 turbofan engine, that is one that has afterburning and allows L15 to reach maximum speed of Mach 1.4 ...

Russia has been producing that engine entirely in-house since 2015.

Двигатели для Як-130 начали производить без украинских деталей | Еженедельник «Военно-промышленный курьер»

Научно-производственный центр газотурбостроения «Салют» освоил полный цикл производства и начал поставки авиастроителям авиадвигателей АИ-222-25 для учебно-боевых самолетов Як-130, сообщает Интерфакс-АВН со ссылкой на руководителя пресс-службы предприятия Оксану Бабинцеву

vpk-news.ru

Yes, but the afterburning version used by the L-15 is the AI-222-25F. And there are political issues with Russian sourcing at the moment.

There is no but this, but that, Russia produces AL-222-25 and just because they don't say AL-222-25F doesn't mean that they aren't capable of producing it as AL-222-25 is a variant of AL-222-25F and not entirely different turbofan engine. 25F has addition of afterburner stage.

 

[siegecrossbow]

AVIC confirms L-15 sale to UAE. 12 aircraft for the first batch to equip the UAE Air Force Aerobatics Team and potential follow up with 36 aircraft. L-15 variant for UAE has fuel probe added to satisfy UAE Air Force requirement.

 

[siegecrossbow]

AVIC confirms L-15 sale to UAE. 12 aircraft for the first batch to equip the UAE Air Force Aerobatics Team and potential follow up with 36 aircraft. L-15 variant for UAE has fuel probe added to satisfy UAE Air Force requirement.

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Supposedly first aircraft spotted. I guess the fuel probe is detachable?

 

[Deino]

AVIC confirms L-15 sale to UAE. 12 aircraft for the first batch to equip the UAE Air Force Aerobatics Team and potential follow up with 36 aircraft. L-15 variant for UAE has fuel probe added to satisfy UAE Air Force requirement.

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Supposedly first aircraft spotted. I guess the fuel probe is detachable?

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Here the first aircraft preparing for the upcoming 18th Dubai Air Show.
(Image via @蓝昌好崽哩 from Weibo)

 

[RavenOne]

From my adventures attending Dubai Air Show this week, here are my photos of the first UAEAF L-15 Falcon



cheers

 

[riggerrob]

From my adventures attending Dubai Air Show this week, here are my photos of the first UAEAF L-15 Falcon

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cheers

What are those “blades” in front of the windshield?

 

[flateric]

IFF antennas